Even more ironic is how few actual legal protections are afforded to foreign nationals: the majority of Switzerland-based service users such as PM. They actually do not deserve respect due to blatant abuse of this tired and wrong motif to sell ineffectual products.

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rippeltippel 6 days ago | parent [-]

What's ineffectual in Proton products? Could you please elaborate, as I'm considering moving to their suite?

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crinkly 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Personally, and I have no relation to OP, there was no compelling security advantage for me. Email has no security guarantees unless you use PGP and I don’t know anyone who uses PGP. If someone wants to read my at rest mail they are going to compel me to hand over my keys anyway. And I think the best security policy when it comes to file services is: don’t.

And on top of that I need to back up my email to my offline storage and doing that with their proprietary stuff is a pain.

In the end I just moved to Fastmail and use it as a simple IMAP/SMTP service. Emails I don’t need any more are archived to offline folders in TB.

My entire public cloud exposure is literally one imap mailbox (with 11 emails in it) and 1 static html file in fastmail’s public web service infra. Oh and separate DNS/domain provider.

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tkj922 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not OP, but think twice. They make it extremely difficult to downgrade/withdraw once you chose a plan. Their hardware is actually not in the Switzerland either.

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PeterStuer 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Last time I was looking for a preferably european mail host for a new project I looked at Proton but they did not seem to have support for transactional mail.

In the end I settled on Zoho, not European , but not US either.

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Belphemur 5 days ago | parent [-]

I'd argue you where looking at the wrong tool for the job.

ProtonMail is meant for human to human communication, not for automated emails.

	▲	PeterStuer 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, but for simplicity I was looking for a provider that had both mailboxes as well as a transactional mail solution for a SaaS project I am working on.