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The west bank seems to not be doing so bad compared to Gaza.

UltraSane 6 months ago | parent | prev [-]

You should stop lying about a non-existent genocide. Israel just wants to live in peace. This is why 20% of the Israel population is Arab and 0% of Gaza and the West Bank are Jewish.

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Hikikomori 6 months ago | parent [-]

Just living in peace while stealing the homes and land of the locals.

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Gibbon1 6 months ago | parent | next [-]

Israel cleared out of Gaza 17 years ago.

Gaza immediately became a mafia state run by the Muslim brotherhood and subsisting off handouts and extortion. Consider it a failed experiment in self rule.

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Hikikomori 6 months ago | parent [-]

A state with no borders that anything can cross without Israels approval, a state made up largely of refugees fleeing the Nakba, a state without much arable land, a state that had most of its infrastructure including its airport destroyed when Israel left it. Its like they were set up for success.

	▲	Gibbon1 6 months ago \| parent [-]
		Both Israel and Egypt attempt to limit the weapons that the terrorists that run Gaza can get access to.

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UltraSane 6 months ago | parent | prev [-]

"Just living in peace while stealing the homes and land of the locals."

No. Jews migrated to Ottoman controlled land legally and paid for it. Palestinians were offered their own country but rejected that offer in favor of trying to expel the Jews and taking their land. Then they spend the next 70 years trying and failing to destroy Israel and rejecting every offer of their own country.

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Hikikomori 6 months ago | parent [-]

The Nakba was a big nothingburger and nothing is going in in the west bank right?

This is getting old, do you have any fresh hasbara for me?

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UltraSane 6 months ago | parent [-]

The Nakba happened when Palestinians foolishly rejected the offer from the UN for their own country and decided to destroy Israel instead. They failed miserably just like they have been failing ever since.

Palestinians need to take responsibility for reacting to the formation of Israel in the most self-destructive way possible.

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Hikikomori 6 months ago | parent [-]

I asked for fresh hasbara.

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UltraSane 6 months ago | parent [-]

Labeling arguments as 'hasbara' is just a way to avoid addressing the historical facts I've presented.

Do you dispute that Jews legally purchased land during the Ottoman period?

Do you dispute that the 1947 UN partition was rejected by Arab leadership?

Do you dispute that five Arab armies invaded in 1948?

Which specific historical claim do you think is incorrect?

Using "hasbara" as a dismissal tactic is essentially admitting you can't refute my factual claims on their merits.

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Hikikomori 6 months ago | parent [-]

I don't. But I don't find them particularly relevant to the situation in Gaza and the continued colonization/land stealing in the west bank.

For example, you recognize the fledgling UN's decision to partition the land but don't recognize any decision they've taken since, not like you're following those borders anyway.

I can all it Israeli state propaganda talking points if you want, hasbara is less of a mouthful though.

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UltraSane 6 months ago | parent [-]

"I don't find them particularly relevant to the situation in Gaza"

Do you find the Hamas attacks that killed 1,200 people relevant?

"you recognize the fledgling UN's decision to partition the land but don't recognize any decision they've taken since"

I know that the Palestinians have rejected at least two excellent offers from Israel for their own country. If they had accepted them they would be VASTLY better off then they are now.

You cannot absolve the Palestinians of their responsibility for their shitty lives due to their terrible decisions.

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Hikikomori 6 months ago | parent [-]

>Do you find the Hamas attacks that killed 1,200 people relevant?

Relevant as far as its the latest and greatest excuse Israel can use to take more land and genocide the locals. US had a long history of doing the same when it came to Indians.

I wouldn't fault jews and other minorities in the holocaust for fighting back against their oppressors either.

	▲	UltraSane 6 months ago \| parent [-]
		Calling the brutal murder of 1,200 people an "excuse" is pretty despicable. That would be like if a Mexican cartel invaded the US and killed 40,000 people. " US had a long history of doing the same when it came to Indians." Yes, and you don't see Native Americans trying to take back their land using military force and mass murder because they aren't evil and aren't stupid. "I wouldn't fault Jews and other minorities in the holocaust for fighting back against their oppressors either." The only people oppressing Palestinians in Gaza are Hamas.