▲ | troupo a month ago | ||||||||||||||||
> and packagers can be random contributors So who's going to maintain the packages? Who's going to test them against other packages? Against distro upgrades? Who's going to fix issues? > Not at all, but it seems like you don't know how it currently works in traditional distros I do. A small number of people are doing the thankless job of packaging, maintaining, fixing, testing a multitude of packages. And their efforts are needlessly duplicated across several packaging systems. > What I don't like, is Windows-minded people ("I shouldn't have to understand how my computer works") who come to Linux and push for everybody to become like them What I don't like is people assuming ill intent behind "you know what would be great? If we didn't assume that every user has to package their own packages across 15 different incompatible packaging systems". | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | palata a month ago | parent [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> So who's going to maintain the packages? Who's going to test them against other packages? Against distro upgrades? Who's going to fix issues? I feel like you're not reading what I'm writing. The community. That's how open source works: if you use an open source project and it has a bug, you can fix it and open an MR. If the upstream project doesn't want your fix, you can fork. Nothing forces the upstream project to accept your contributions. When they do, they take the responsibility for them (to some extent, as in: it is now part of their codebase). If your distribution doesn't have a package you want, you can make it for yourself, locally. You can contribute it to a community repo (most distros have that). Maybe at some point, the distro maintainers will decide to take over your package in a more official repo, maybe not. Even if you are not the official maintainer of a package, if you use it and see a problem, you can contribute a fix. In the open source world, most people are freeriders. A (big) subset of those feel entitled and are simply jerks. And a minority of people are not freeriders and actually contribute. That's the deal. > And their efforts are needlessly duplicated across several packaging systems. No! No no no no! If they don't want to put efforts into that, they don't have to. They could use Ubuntu, or Windows, or macOS. If they contribute to, say, Alpine or Gentoo, that's because they want to. I am not on Gentoo in the hope that it will become Ubuntu, that would be weird. But you sound like you want to solve "my Gentoo problems" by making it look more like Ubuntu (in the idea). Don't use Gentoo if you don't want to, and leave me alone! Don't try to solve my problems, you're not even a Gentoo user. | |||||||||||||||||
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