▲ | palata a month ago | |||||||
> So who's going to maintain the packages? Who's going to test them against other packages? Against distro upgrades? Who's going to fix issues? I feel like you're not reading what I'm writing. The community. That's how open source works: if you use an open source project and it has a bug, you can fix it and open an MR. If the upstream project doesn't want your fix, you can fork. Nothing forces the upstream project to accept your contributions. When they do, they take the responsibility for them (to some extent, as in: it is now part of their codebase). If your distribution doesn't have a package you want, you can make it for yourself, locally. You can contribute it to a community repo (most distros have that). Maybe at some point, the distro maintainers will decide to take over your package in a more official repo, maybe not. Even if you are not the official maintainer of a package, if you use it and see a problem, you can contribute a fix. In the open source world, most people are freeriders. A (big) subset of those feel entitled and are simply jerks. And a minority of people are not freeriders and actually contribute. That's the deal. > And their efforts are needlessly duplicated across several packaging systems. No! No no no no! If they don't want to put efforts into that, they don't have to. They could use Ubuntu, or Windows, or macOS. If they contribute to, say, Alpine or Gentoo, that's because they want to. I am not on Gentoo in the hope that it will become Ubuntu, that would be weird. But you sound like you want to solve "my Gentoo problems" by making it look more like Ubuntu (in the idea). Don't use Gentoo if you don't want to, and leave me alone! Don't try to solve my problems, you're not even a Gentoo user. | ||||||||
▲ | troupo a month ago | parent [-] | |||||||
> That's how open source works: Funny how in reality it's not how open source works. Packages are en masse packaged and maintained by a very small number of maintainers doing a thankless job. Not by some "community" where "a person who uses the package" suddenly wakes up nad says "you know, I'm going to package this piece of software" This is literally the reason for my exmaple with Erlang in my original comment. > n the open source world, most people are freeriders. I'm getting tired of your rants and tangents > No! No no no no! If they don't want to put efforts into that, they don't have to. They could use Ubuntu You're deliberately missing and/or ignoring the point. Ho many package managers and package format are there? Packaging some code for each of them is wasted/duplicated effort because it's doing the same thing (packaging) for the same code (for example, Erlang) for literally the same operating system (Linux) just because someone has a very subjective view of "the one true correct way". So now you have someone packaging, say, Erlang, for dpkg, flatpack, nix, pacman, rpm, snap and probably a few others because "people are not freeloaders" or "non-windows-minded people" or some other stream of consciousness. > Don't use Gentoo if you don't want to, and leave me alone! Don't try to solve my problems, you're not even a Gentoo user. I've said all I had to say. You deliberately chose to talk only to the voices in your head. Sorry, I'm not privy to those voices. So, adieu. | ||||||||
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