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willvarfar 16 hours ago

Although Carmack is the quintessential not-a-brogrammer.

dusted 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've never actually seen a brogrammer though, I've seen people who program only because they get money for it, I thought for a while those where it, but I'm not sure if I think they qualify either.

tomaytotomato 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

From watching on the wall I've seen brogrammer used in various contexts (this is not an exhaustive list):

- Someone who is a programmer but follows a hypermasculine cliche and makes sure everyone knows about it.

- An insult used by other developers for someone who is more physically fit or interested in their health than themselves.

- An insult used by engineers or other people who are not happy with the over representation of men in the industry. So everyone is lumped in the category.

- Someone who is obsessed with the technology and trying to grind their skills on it to an excessive level.

brotein 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Brogrammer here. I recognize that I spend 12 hours a day writing code (and loving it) as a fun thing but also a danger if I do it all sitting down. I stay busy and incorporate workouts into my day.

I don’t take it as a pejorative, it’s an acknowledgement of my efforts to be even considered in this category. For those wondering I have a family, and have healthy activities otherwise. No cool diets or bioscience, just code, physical activity and coffee/water.

This isn’t a lifestyle I’m saying everyone should do, only that people should do what makes them happiest and most fulfilled for their set of goals.

diggan 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> someone who is more physically fit or interested in their health than themselves

Isn't "interested in their health" a signal that they are interested in themselves, rather than the opposite?

oersted 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Disambigation: I believe "themselves" refers to the one insulting, not the one interested in their health.

It tripped me up too, to be fair.

tomaytotomato 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Apologies, grammar is hard.

mi_lk 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Someone who is obsessed with the technology and trying to grind their skills on it to an excessive level

sounds like a person who respects their own profession though

shermantanktop 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I always think of “bro” as being a hyper version of “dude.” It’s generically applied to any random person, but it’s also exclusively male. So using it implies “this ingroup is assumed to be 100% male.”

On the other hand, I’ve seen and heard “dude” and “guy” used by and applied to women by other women. Not common but it happens. But I’ve never heard “bro” used that way.

CPLX 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A. A male programmer who uses the word "bro" unironically in conversation.

B. A person who is physically and culturally indistinguishable from A

rfrey 9 hours ago | parent [-]

What physical or cultural characteristics would make a person "indistinguishable from A"?

nindalf 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It means “programmer I don’t like”. Very versatile insult and vague enough that it’s impossible to defend against.

kid64 15 hours ago | parent [-]

No, I'm pretty sure it's just a programmer that understands the world in terms of bros.

dusted 13 hours ago | parent [-]

"in the terms of bros" what does that even mean? I think bro is a term that's used pretty widely, for different things, in different cultures and contexts, I call my brother bro.. I've heard people call their friends bro.. I've heard someone tell a police officer "don't tase me, bro"..

floren 7 hours ago | parent [-]

My co-worker's 7 year old daughter calls him "bruh"

lostmsu 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I call my 4yo daughter bro

vasco 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Expression of endearment in this case.