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| ▲ | thinkingemote 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| "Bob went to Venice to pick up the doge." Where doge is both the name of a title (like duke) but it is misspelt "dog". The use of "Venice" where doge's are could increase a the likelihood of a smarter spell check keeping doge and not correcting to dog. Looking at a wider context might see that Bob is talking about a pupper. A simpler example would be "spell cheque" |
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| ▲ | macleginn 2 days ago | parent [-] | | A spelling error, using one dictionary definition, is "an error in the conventionally accepted form of spelling a word" --- mistaking one word for another does not fall under this definition. It is true that we now expect spell checkers to do grammatical checking as well, but a pure spell checker can indeed rely on a wordlist for English (this wouldn't work in languages with more developed morphology and/or frequent compounding). | | |
| ▲ | kmacdough 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Ok, but this is a technicality. Spell-checkers have slowly evolved into grammar checkers and what people really want is error correction. Whether people call it a spell checker a minor language issue (and the kind of things humans do all the time). When teaching for your dictionary, ask: "is it obvious what they mean if I'm not being pedantic?" | | |
| ▲ | macleginn 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | We expect different outputs in these two cases, though. A wrong word choice is usually accompanied by a hint that another word may have been intended, while a wrong spelling can be unambiguously marked as a mistake. These two behaviours can be turned on and off independently, and they need two different labels. | |
| ▲ | ealexhudson 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Agreed. "Dessert" vs "desert" - mistaking these two is often not a grammatical error (they're both nouns), but is a spelling error (they have quite different meanings, and the person who wrote the word simply spelled it wrongly). | | |
| ▲ | macleginn 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I agree, but this is definitely the kind of spelling error (along with complementary/complimentary, discrete/discreet, etc.) that we normally don't expect our spellcheckers to catch. |
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| ▲ | internet_points 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Finnish would like a word. Take a random noun like kauppa "shop". It has at least 6000 forms: https://flammie.github.io/omorfi/genkau3.html and that's excluding compounds (written as one word in Finnish) like "bookshop" or "shop-manager" etc. etc. And then you have loan words and slang, derivations into other words classes; all of this is impossible to compactly represent in a full-form word list. Now consider the many other languages of that family ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages ) – they also have this extreme potential for inflections, but next to no online resources to train language models on or even scrape decent wordlists from. |
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| ▲ | yencabulator a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Finnish is very different from most other languages, and does not have the user base to be well represented in training data, but that webpage is ridiculous and does not reflect the actual language. No one in the history of Finnish has ever spoken most of those forms. Grammar describes language, it does not define it! | |
| ▲ | rcarmo 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | "would like a word". I see what you did there... |
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| ▲ | Timwi 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's exactly what they're saying. If you write “the work required deep incite”, a traditional spell checker won't catch the mistake (but people consider it a spelling error). |
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| ▲ | SSLy 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cue people mistaking cue for queue |
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| ▲ | matsemann 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Butt wouldn't you liked if a spell cheque could of fixed these command? |
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| ▲ | NitpickLawyer 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Hah! Apple caught "of" and suggested "consider have instead", but left the rest untouched. Great qed for spell checkers. Chatgpt fixed it though: "But wouldn't you like it if a spell check could have fixed these commands?" |
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