| ▲ | senko 4 days ago |
| We already have machines that do laundry and dishes. |
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| ▲ | bicepjai 4 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Who ever says this have not done laundry :) |
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| ▲ | harshitaneja 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Who ever says this hasn't done laundry without machine assistance :) | |
| ▲ | dataviz1000 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ugh, why can't AI fold my clothes so I can spend more time on Hacker News writing comments? | | |
| ▲ | Tepix 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Because AI can do the commenting better than you...? | | |
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| ▲ | fullshark 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I recall they asked some elderly women what the greatest invention they saw in their lifetime was a few years back and they said the laundry machine. Before the laundry machine, it was an all day, physical chore with a washboard. Hours of your life devoted to just doing laundry versus putting it in a machine and coming back in an hour | |
| ▲ | senko 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Incorrect :) Try doing it without the machine, see if you can spot the difference. | | |
| ▲ | nurettin 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Still a chore with the machine. It is implied that AI will take over the machines, collect your socks and shirts from around the house, put them in the machine, dry them out, iron them and put them back in the drawer in an energy efficient and hygienic way while you are happily painting. | | |
| ▲ | malloryerik 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Yep, the beloved image of Aristotle gazing out at the slaves in the fields and saying that someday robots will do the labor and people will be at leisure, and not slaves looking toward the pagoda discussing how someday robots will own us all. | |
| ▲ | amarant 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's still creative work to make music using AI too. In both cases, the machines just made it a lot easier | | |
| ▲ | magackame 4 days ago | parent [-] | | I am not too sure about that. Isn't the whole thing about art and music is that you can convey something that words cannot? Of course, these models start to support image and audio inputs as well, but the most interesting mixing step that happens in the artist's head seems missing in the generated output. If you have some vision inside your head, making something out of it by hand is still the best way to convey it. Just as writing something down refines the thoughts and reveals holes in your thinking - drawing something is visual thinking that reveals holes in your imagination. You can imagine some scene or an object pretty easily, but if you try to draw it into existence, you will immediately notice that a lot of detail is missing, a lot of stuff you didn't think through or didn't even notice was there at all. The same applies to creating music and programming. Using generative AI certainly has some artistic component to it, but I feel like using these models you give up too much expressive bandwidth and ability to reflect and take your time on the whole endeavor. | | |
| ▲ | harvey9 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Who is the work for? If I lived in the automated future (or could afford private staff in the present) I would do more creative stuff just because I enjoy it and with no expectation of having an audience.
For context, I'm an occasionally-published photographer, and I like playing piano but I'm not at a level anyone else would want to listen to. | | |
| ▲ | senko 4 days ago | parent [-] | | But photography is not art, you didn't paint it! You literally pointed a device at something, twiddled a few knobs and pushed a button. Literally anyone with a smartphone can do that! /s of course, but basically that's the argument people make nowadays related to AI and art (of any form). See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs3ocG5yW88 |
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| ▲ | TiredOfLife 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Get a clothes dryer. |
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| ▲ | Shorel 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Whoever says this has never washed laundry by hand =) |
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| ▲ | dyauspitr 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Loading and unloading them and folding clothes makes it not good enough yet. There are so many things a humanoid robot could do around a house. Laundry, dishes, picking up clutter, taking out the trash, wiping down surfaces and dusting, pulling out weeds etc. I actually think we’re somewhat close to gettin g like that relatively soon. |
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| ▲ | Applejinx 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Humanoid or not, anything that can do these things and understand you when you ask to do them, in a useful way that's not like 'white mutiny' but actually like a proper servant… …deserves to sit on the back porch playing guitar if it likes. If it's a superintelligence way superior to its human masters, it deserves that MORE than if it's a hapless, semi-useless mechanism. | | |
| ▲ | dyauspitr 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I wouldn’t say an LLM needs time to relax and it can do all of the above atleast in the virtual space already. |
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| ▲ | butlike 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| As always, the last mile is the most difficult. To me 'doing laundry and dishes' encompasses putting them away (and folding in the case of laundry). |
