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troupo a day ago

> That should fit nicely into Gemini 2.5 Flash (or GPT-4.1 or Gemini 2.5 Pro).

Christ almighty. The act is neither long enough nor hard enough to read and understand yourself

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simonw a day ago | parent [-]

Seriously? You would rather read all of https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:... than pipe it into an LLM to answer a few questions about it?

How long would it take you to read that thing? I'm a reasonably fast reader and it would take me hours.

(https://wordcount.com/character-counter estimates 5 hours and 46 minutes)

Are you a dedicated member of the "LLMs have no legitimate uses" camp?

In case it wasn't obvious, my blog post is meant to be equally about the "Meta/open source/EU AI act" thing and the "look at what you can do with these new long context models that were released in the last few weeks" thing.

As so often is the case with my LLM projects this one wasn't a case of choosing between "read the EU AI act or pipe it through an LLM" - it was a choice between "pipe the EU AI act through an LLM or lose interest in this mild spike of curiosity and go and do something else instead."

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troupo a day ago | parent [-]

> You would rather read all of <law> than pipe it into an LLM to answer a few questions about it?

yes, yes I would.

> How long would it take you to read that thing? I'm a reasonably fast reader and it would take me hours.

For most of the "few questions" you can skim most of it

> Are you a dedicated member of the "LLMs have no legitimate uses" camp?

I'm in the camp of "do not offshore your thinking process to a non-deterministic black box whose whole mode operandi is to always generate plausible-looking answer and then profusely apologize if it was caught to produce invalid output".

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Also, "five hours to read an important legislation written in a surprisingly clear language is too long and nigh impossible" is the premier reason about so much bullshit disinformation about EU AI Act, DMA, GDPR and plethora of other, less important regulations

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simonw a day ago | parent [-]

I outsourced the "skim most of it" bit to the model. I used an LLM to jump to the bits that mattered, then I confirmed those bits by reading them myself in the original document (and thinking about them).

LLMs are a tool.

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troupo a day ago | parent [-]

Yup, LLMs took you to recitals, not to the articles themselves. This is definitely better than invalid info, I'll grant you that.

	▲	simonw a day ago \| parent [-]
		I fed in the entire act with the articles and the recitals. The full response from Gemini included information from the articles, but I didn't quote that directly in my blog post. Here's that full response: https://gist.github.com/simonw/f2e341a2e8ea9ca75c6426fa85bc2... Relevant section: > Article 53(2) provides an exception from the obligations for providers of general-purpose AI models regarding technical documentation (Art 53(1)(a)) and providing information to downstream providers (Art 53(1)(b)) if the models are released under a free and open-source license and their parameters (including weights), information on model architecture, and information on model usage are made publicly available. This exemption does not apply to general-purpose AI models with systemic risks.