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ChuckMcM 4 days ago

I believe this is exactly correct. Email is a 'paper trail' and being able to change that paper trail ex-post facto benefits the sender waaaaaaaaaaay more than it does the receiver. I met an engineer from Google who quit when they insisted on "dogfooding" this.

They used the example, you send an email that says lets meet for dinner tonight at 6. You arrive and after 30 minutes begin to wonder, go back to your email and now it says meet "tommorow night" at 6. Are you crazy? Did you misremember? Or did the sender change the email after they sent it and you read it? How could you complain?

As I understand it, it was met internally with "that isn't what we mean." But the ability to send HR important announcements and then change them after the fact is a capability that is just too tempting for HR to resist at some point.

parl_match 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> They used the example, you send an email that says lets meet for dinner tonight at 6. You arrive and after 30 minutes begin to wonder, go back to your email and now it says meet "tommorow night" at 6. Are you crazy? Did you misremember? Or did the sender change the email after they sent it and you read it? How could you complain?

This is a calendar invite. And this is a completely valid use case, but it's useless if I don't have an edit log. It's crazy how many people miss that last part.

ChuckMcM 4 days ago | parent [-]

In current email you get ANOTHER email that says the invite has been updated. While it changes "automagically" on your Calendar. That second email is critical.

5- 4 days ago | parent [-]

when i was forced (thankfully, briefly) to use outlook (web version), one of the big surprises was that rsvp'ing on the invite deleted the message.

several times i came looking for that invite and felt gaslighted not to have it in my inbox.

cookie_monsta 4 days ago | parent [-]

That's just a setting, turned on by default annoyingly

dimensional_dan 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's probably going to be even worse than that - HR (and everyone else) will probably then have to implement process and procedure and storage mechanisms to prove that emails have not been changed. This might mean storing emails in a document control system. Email is bad enough but now we're all going to have to keep a mirror in SharePoint or something like that.

coderatlarge 4 days ago | parent [-]

i do this with email from my financial institutions that i care about. i login to their “secure messaging “ portal and grab pdf export of the web page.