▲ | ytpete 15 hours ago | |
What did US universities do to "silence all opposing viewpoints" on any issues? Did they kick students out of school because of their viewports? Claw back their financial aid? Get them deported? Physically harm them? I sure don't remember things like that happening in widespread manner to conservative students, let alone happening in a way that was organized top-down by the universities' leadership. | ||
▲ | stale2002 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |
> Did they kick students out of school because of their viewports? Yes actually! Almost every presigious/non public college has speech codes. And those speech codes have consequences. Up to, and including, expulsion if you keep breaking them. Check out how well each college is doing here: https://www.thefire.org/colleges | ||
▲ | lelanthran 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
I want to assume you are asking in good faith and really aren't aware of academic administration's attempts to silence specific and common viewpoints. Your comment surprises me, because at this point, there really isn't any contention over the fact that universities have been doing exactly this. So while I am assuming that you don't actually know, I'll give you a short list of links (I'm not doing research that takes me more than 5m). > What did US universities do to "silence all opposing viewpoints" on any issues? https://www.forbes.com/sites/musbahshaheen/2024/06/05/stop-r... https://www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/diversity-statemen... https://www.thefire.org/news/anti-free-speech-trends-campus-... https://www.thefire.org/facultyreport https://www.hrdive.com/news/stop-requiring-diversity-stateme... (UK, but still the same idea) https://www.thetimes.com/uk/education/article/kathleen-stock... https://www.thefire.org/news/speaker-disinvited-uncomfortabl... https://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-disinvited-speakers-... And, finally, some charts: https://www.thefire.org/news/blogs/eternally-radical-idea/ne...
The takeaway is that the right-leaning students and administration are far far more tolerant of speech from the left, than the left-leaning students and administration are of speech from the right.It pains me to say it, but it aligns with my experience. > Did they kick students out of school because of their viewports? Claw back their financial aid? Get them deported? Physically harm them? None of that is required to silence opposing views. > I sure don't remember things like that happening in widespread manner to conservative students, let alone happening in a way that was organized top-down by the universities' leadership. "Allowing only one viewpoint" doesn't require that the university administration has a top-down directive to expel students, only that they allow one viewpoint and silence the other. Once again, that this happened is not in dispute, so I am left wondering where you were going with this response. | ||
▲ | mantas 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |
I think it's vice versa. Some students prevent other students from exercising their free speech rights. E.g. try to prevent speakers they don't like from speaking on campus. Or harass some people for their ethnicity in context of Hamas/Israel war. Then universities look the other way. |