| ▲ | dkyc 10 months ago |
| But can I run it on Gaia-X? This really reads like a parody. Press release, “a consortium of 20 research institutions”, “awarded the STEP (Strategic Technologies for Europe Platform) seal”. Lots of grandiose self-congratulations. All with nothing to run, download or try of course. |
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| ▲ | rafram 10 months ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Press release https://openai.com/news/company-announcements/ > a consortium of 20 research institutions https://aimagazine.com/machine-learning/google-invests-in-ai... > awarded the STEP (Strategic Technologies for Europe Platform) seal https://openai.com/index/strengthening-americas-ai-leadershi... > Lots of grandiose self-congratulations https://x.com/sama/status/1891533802779910471 > All with nothing to run, download or try of course. https://openai.com/weights/download/ |
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| ▲ | Legend2440 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | OpenAI has a real, groundbreaking product. This has... a statement of intent to try to copy that product. Not remotely the same. | | |
| ▲ | cess11 10 months ago | parent [-] | | This is about industrial research, not about some product. Members of the project have previously produced both niche and general models, but without the arrogance and bluster of usian corporate subcultures. | | |
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| ▲ | coalbin 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | Maybe you can't download their weights, but you can literally try out their products right from their homepage. What's your point? | | |
| ▲ | rafram 10 months ago | parent [-] | | OK, if you prefer: https://web.archive.org/web/20151211215507/https://openai.co... It's normal to announce things long before they're actually available to end users. This is not some unique evil of the EU bureaucracy - if anything, it's very corporate of them. | | |
| ▲ | varjag 10 months ago | parent [-] | | You just don't get it. When it's announced by the EU, it's red tape PDF crunching soulless bureaucracy wasting our time. When it's said by a glorified CPA of an American unicorn startup it's the vision, innovation and triumph of entrepreneurial spirit. |
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| ▲ | sunshine-o 10 months ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What I am gonna say here is not a political point but I hope someone can point me the pattern (and some something to read about it) I have observed with for example the EU. Yes it sounds like a parody or an onion piece.
We know the European search engine, cloud, blockchain never got anywhere. I don't even believe that anybody ever really tried. Now you have to put yourself in their head for 2 minutes and here is what I noticed by knowing a few of them (the "EU type"). In their perception of reality it seems they really believe that if they declare something it is real. This is why they get so deranged if you dare pointing to the facts or just asking questions.
It seems they really believe they succeeded in all those projects. I they say it, it exists. I am not really satisfied by the explanations we usually hear: they are incompetent, it is corruption or even insanity (some sort of mass hysteria that would take root in some institutions). What I am wondering is, is there a concept in philosophy or some similar pattern in previous civilisation that could help us understand what is going on with the EU? Because Gaia-X or OpenEuroLLM is one thing, but it is worrisome they now believe they can raise an army and declare war on everybody. |
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| ▲ | hanshansen43 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | As a European, the sad reality is that I see parallels with the late-stage Soviet Union and its satellite states. NOT when it comes to the level of violence and repression or quality of living. Those two things are world-class. But in the sense that there's a more or less unelected political establishment that's a) Recursive: It does things only to show them off to itself. b) Not exposed to real-world consequences. c) Has a non-falsifiable pretense to validate whatever they do and caution against undoing whatever it is. For the soviets, it was anti-capitalism. For the EU it's some notion of safety or sustainability. d) Inadvertently benefits itself and other elites and harms the people they pretend to protect. My hope is that as a democratic institution, the EU is capable of reform. | | |
| ▲ | sunshine-o 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah you are right there is probably no need to look very far ... Now what worry me is from I understand of the collapse of the Soviet Union (but I might be very wrong) is they kind let things happen and was less aggressive by the end. On the contrary the EC is now consolidating power rapidly and are getting very aggressive. | | |
| ▲ | hanshansen43 10 months ago | parent [-] | | well you can only compare the communist party and the EU in those narrow ways I described above, not in its "aggression". You can't even compare the EC's aggression (pointless regulations) with Soviet ones (no need to elaborate, but it's gruesome). |
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| ▲ | varjag 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | As someone who grew up in late-stage Soviet Union nope. Not even close. |
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| ▲ | Fnoord 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | There's various EU cloud providers. It seems to me it is difficult to compete with these energy prices. |
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| ▲ | amarcheschi 10 months ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is not different from any corporate speech, except that this time is for public benefit rather than private, and will proceed much slower. And yes, I don't know why but apparently consortium are named quite often, I'm in compsci in italy and on hpc courses they get named a lot |
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| ▲ | menaerus 10 months ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is. They will do nothing but distribute the EU taxpayers money into their pockets. Unfortunately. |
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| ▲ | Argonaut998 10 months ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It’s par for the course for this union. It’s just comical given the very recent political events. |
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| ▲ | anonymousDan 10 months ago | parent [-] | | In what way? What exactly has the US achieved? | | |
| ▲ | jisnsm 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | I don’t know. Everything? | |
| ▲ | kandesbunzler 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | Uhhm.. they lead in pretty much everything especially tech related? You redditors are unbearable. | | |
| ▲ | saint_yossarian 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | The US is a joke when it comes to things like health care, or labour protections. | |
| ▲ | FranzFerdiNaN 10 months ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They also lead in destroying your own country and science and tech industries. And soon they’ll be the number one authoritarian state too! And have biggest bestest king of them all lmao. | | |
| ▲ | holoduke 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | Every week new products are released from you guess where: the US. Products used by people all over the world. US is doing pretty great compared to for example Europe. The US is not becoming an authoritarian state. Its a country lead by companies and institutions. Its just a bit clearer now. But its nothing different than 10 years ago | |
| ▲ | kandesbunzler 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | >They also lead in destroying your own country and science and tech industries. Except they haven't and lead in all those things mentioned? |
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| ▲ | anonymousDan 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean in relation to the 'current political events' - which I presume to mean Russia/Ukraine negotiations. You clown. |
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| ▲ | cyberax 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Europe is moving at the speed of bureaucracy. It's slow, but inexorable. And honestly, people don't _want_ the European bureaucracy to move fast. Case in point: the USA. |
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| ▲ | baggy_trough 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | The spending of money is inexorable, but little else is achieved (unless you count blocking productive people). | | |
| ▲ | cyberax 10 months ago | parent [-] | | European projects are often long and ponderous, but they do deliver. There's a long history of state-sponsored academic collaborations, like the venerable CERN. |
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| ▲ | kandesbunzler 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | > , people don't _want_ the European bureaucracy to move fast. I'm a german and yes i would absolutely want it to move faster. And I guess you are an american? | | |
| ▲ | cyberax 10 months ago | parent [-] | | Ethnically Russian. And the Russian government is (and I'm not joking) quite effective and agile. You can guess why I prefer a bit more ...gradual... style of governing. |
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