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Putting aside the whole idea that Elon "bought" his way into this position, it's crazy this is the path that Trump is taking. He has a house and a senate that would likely happily cut all these programs, and it could be done legally and without all this mess. Why let Elon run roughshod over the government?

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WesleyJohnson 2 days ago | parent [-]

It's in the Project 2025 playbook. They're trying to overwhelm everyone so you can't possible keep track of all they're doing. Store security could handle one shoplifter at a time; but when you have a riot and mass looting - you have fewer options and often just step aside and let them loot. Then deal with the mess later.

Also - he's a narcissist and he wants all the credit.

Also - he's a wannabe dictator, and on his way to making it a reality, so he's demonstrating that he does not need permission or help.

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theultdev 2 days ago | parent [-]

Not related to Project 2025, and they have countless times said they aren't associated with that project.

But yes, "Flood the Zone" is the strategy to combat Democrat's media and court strategies.

It was started by Steve Bannon in 2018, but expanded massively under Stephen Miller.

The rest of your post is just hysteria so I won't comment on that.

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ncr100 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

No. The current GOP administration, starting from before this election:

- supported funding Project 2025's development by GOP members

- talked about Project 2025 favorably

- saw Project 2025 demonized by the media

- THEN denied they support Project 2025

- got elected using Project 2025 tactics

- hired Project 2025 author INTO this new administration

- are currently implementing Project 2025 policies.

SO "THEY ARE ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECT 2025" seems closer to "true" and "fact" than unlikely.

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theultdev 2 days ago | parent [-]

Please find me a clip where Trump supported Project 2025, I'll wait.

In every instance, he has said he is not affiliated with it and doesn't support it as a whole.

Now there are some agendas in Project 2025 that are fine, some that are pretty out there. So yeah there will be overlap in policies.

Just wanted to point out you were wrong about their strategy. There's a name for it it's called "Flood the zone" and it's older than Project 2025.

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filoeleven a day ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.project2025.observer/

Trump is either in charge and actively supporting its goals, or he is not really in charge and is being duped into supporting its goals. “Some overlap” is an understatement, especially only this far into his presidency. They’re doing exactly what they said they would.

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Andrew6rant 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Please find me a clip where Trump supported Project 2025, I'll wait.

Trump said parts of Project 2025 are "very good" in Dec 2024. Can't link a clip right now as I'm at lunch at work, but it should be easy to find

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theultdev 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, and some parts are very good. He also said some parts are not very good in the same statement.

That does not translate to supporting the entire agenda.

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thr0w4w47 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> That does not translate to supporting the entire agenda.

I don't think anyone in this thread has claimed that he supports the entire agenda.

	▲	theultdev 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Okay. We're all good then.

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buttercraft a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>> Please find me a clip where Trump supported Project 2025, I'll wait

> That does not translate to supporting the entire agenda.

You're moving the goalposts.

	▲	theultdev a day ago \| parent [-]
		The original post in this thread was about their breakneck speed. Project 2025 was misattributed to this, it's called "Flood the Zone". Everything after that is just noise.

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thr0w4w47 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Please find me a clip where Trump supported Project 2025, I'll wait.

So someone can only be accused of supporting something if it is caught on video?

	▲	theultdev 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Supporting evidence certainly helps when accusing someone.

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babycheetahbite a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm trying to sort out if there is a particular political bent to the HN crowd.

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Blot2882 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> they have countless times said they aren't associated with that project

Right, but they are visibly are. Russ Vought (project 2025) is the Office of Management and Budget director. He drafted the executive orders months ago that would lead to exactly this. Part of Project 2025

Other members in Trumps cabinet from Project 2025:

- Tom Homan (Border Czar)

- Brendan Carr (FCC)

- John Ratcliffe (CIA Director)

> The rest of your post is just hysteria so I won't comment on that.

Maybe don't accuse others of hysteria while you spout that Democrats are the ones coordinating every independent attorney and judge to come after Trump.

> In every instance, he has said he is not affiliated with it and doesn't support it

You sound like you were born yesterday. If you can't imagine why a politician would say one thing and do the other, I really can't help you. You're maliciously ignorant.

	▲	theultdev 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Having someone in your cabinet doesn't mean their views override yours. It's good to have a cabinet of diverse thought. You can pool all perspectives to make a final informed decision. That's why he has ex-democrats like RFK and Tulsi. Doesn't mean he will implement all of RFKs views though. And I didn't say they coordinated every judge/attorney, you put those words there. I simply said court strategies. It's a well known strategy to shop around for judges to bring a court case. Republicans do it too. Though Democrats excel at it.

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tediousgraffit1 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Not related to Project 2025, and they have countless times said they aren't associated with that project.

lmao the chief author is the head of the OMB my guy[1]

[1]https://apnews.com/article/trump-russell-vought-confirmation...

	▲	theultdev 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		There's plenty of people in the cabinet and other positions with many political views and proposals, including ex-democrats. That doesn't mean all of their views will be implemented. Just a subset that Trump agrees with, or even some they disagree with that Trump tells them to.