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When you say isn't closing business, that's precisely what they are doing. Amazon is an umbrella company with many business operating underneath it. Their app store is just another vertical like AWS is separate from the retail site. If they choose to stop offering a service, that's their prerogative.

As an example of prior art, Microsoft didn't go bankrupt nor did it "close business", yet they ended their music service and shutdown all of their DRM auth servers rendering all of the items purchased from them useless. This is the same thing.

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michaelt 2 days ago | parent [-]

If they'd gone bankrupt, the employees had all lost their jobs, the shareholders got wiped out, the CEO's stock options were worthless, and burly men were carting the office's aeron chairs to the auction house - that would be a different matter.

Wiping out customers' purchases when you've got $100 billion in the bank, though? Kinda a dick move.

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malfist 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Ha! The thought of Amazon splurging for aeron chairs for it's workforce made me chuckle

	▲	genewitch a day ago \| parent [-]
		those brown plastic folding chairs or a concrete bench is what i'd reckon.

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dylan604 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Wiping out customers' purchases when you've got $100 billion in the bank, though? Kinda a dick move.

What you call a dick move might actually have made sense financially for a business. If MS Music was losing money with no hopes of ever turning a profit, why should they continue to operate a charity music service subsidized by all of the other MS businesses that are making money?

Same thing for Amazon. If it is something that shows no signs of paying for itself, why continue to operate it? You have to stop the bleeding at some point. What was the attraction to a dev to use Amazon over Google? Lower percentage of the take? Maybe that explains why it was a money loser?

At the end of the day, it was a bet on a losing horse.

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jorvi 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> If MS Music was losing money with no hopes of ever turning a profit, why should they continue to operate a charity music service subsidized by all of the other MS businesses that are making money?

Microsoft could make a deal with, say, Apple. They check each Microsoft Music (Xbox Music? Zune Music?) account for total spend, and give people an iTunes gift card for nearest total amount. Negotiate a bulk pricing deal with Apple.

Microsoft gets to look good, Apple gets to look good. But it'd cost 0.001% of total Microsoft profit and the shareholders can't have that.

Compare that to some other businesses that will happily recommend you to a competitor if it is a better fit, or if they shut down go out of their way to write a tool or help you with off- and onboarding to an alternative.

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michaelt 2 days ago | parent [-]

Exactly.

When Google shut down Stadia they refunded all purchases - both games and hardware.

	▲	genewitch a day ago \| parent [-]
		google needs that good will for how many of their products they nuke

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michaelt 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> What you call a dick move might actually have made sense financially for a business.

Of course it makes financial sense for the business. Taking the customer's money and not delivering the promised product is really profitable, if you can get away with it.

Still a dick move though.

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malfist 2 days ago | parent [-]

Theft is often a smart business move

	▲	genewitch a day ago \| parent [-]
		wage theft is the largest category of theft in the US by total dollar amount. by a rather large margin.