| ▲ | srj 15 hours ago |
| Am I the only one who loves writing C++? I've used some newer languages like Kotlin, and that's good too, but I always come back to C++. I think a lot of the criticism is from the old way it was written, before C++11/17. |
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| ▲ | MathMonkeyMan 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| C++ is a lot of fun, and there exist many compelling subsets, but the language as a whole is a minefield that you need years of experience to navigate, and probably can never master. |
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| ▲ | nightowl_games 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Kinda. The vast majority of c++ I encounter is simple orthodox c++. No one I know cares about new features in c++ and bemoans having to ever write a template. No one really cares about bulletproofing types, ie: copy/move constructors and all that stuff. I'm sure it's different at big companies but the vast vast majority of c++ is just simple procedural code. | | |
| ▲ | 8fingerlouie 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | > the vast vast majority of c++ is just simple procedural code. Probably because where C++ is needlessly complex, C is beautifully simple. I've used both C and C++ in my career, spending 10+ years as a C programmer (kernels, applications and embedded stuff), as well as 4-5 years as a C++ programmer in a financial institution. I find the thing most "new C/C++ programmers" complain about is memory management and type safety, but honestly, once you have a few years worth of experience, memory management is almost second nature. Most of the time i write the free() statement at the same time as i write the malloc() statement (if applicable). | | |
| ▲ | weebull 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | One of the things I loved about Python when I learnt it was how it dealt with `public`\`private`\protected``. It was "we're all responsible adults. No need to hide anything. We'll just use a naming convention for members that we don't expect people to directly use." "Enforce encapsulation" suddenly became. "Respect encapsulation" in my head and a bunch of Java/C++ problems evaporated. | | |
| ▲ | kstrauser 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I do love that about Python. The encapsulation is there but you can work around it if you’re willing to take responsibility for breaking the gentlemen’s agreement. That’s a lovely pattern. |
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| ▲ | macgyverismo 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I love it too, it tends to bend to my will, for better or worse. It feels like it doesn't stand in my way, and that further translates to feeling like there is nothing between my program and the hardware it runs on. No need to school me on how that isn't true, I'm just describing my feeling and why I love C++. |
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| ▲ | pjmlp 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I love C++, it was my next language after Turbo Pascal, there was a small stint with C, but already in 1992 it felt outdated. However, during the last decade C++ culture suffered, probably it has taken too many C refugees. What you call old way, it is still how many folks write C++ in big corporations, I tend to complain that I only see Modern C++ in conference slides, and my own hobby coding. |
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| ▲ | jayd16 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Tooling is a pain, packages are a pain, compiles are slow, the language is inconsistent, header files why..., the list goes on and on and its not outdated complaints. (lots of reasons to like it, too) |
