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consumer451 7 months ago

Exactly. Ukraine has claimed a recent 6:1 ratio, and Moscow has found it necessary to bring in reinforcements from North Korea.

dralley 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

Ukraine doesn't claim a 6:1 ratio overall. Only in certain parts of the front line during certain periods of fighting is it so lopsided, such as the recent Russian attempts to retake Kursk or the early assaults on Bakhmut and Vulhedar.

An optimistic estimate for the overall war would be more like 2.5 to 1, but realistically it's probably lower.

Equipment kills are another story.

AtlasBarfed 7 months ago | parent [-]

Russia is losing 1000+ a day. I get thee is propaganda, but it would be news is Ukraine was losing 400/day.

The rate of Russian advance (that is, extremely slow) would imply the kill rations are very high in Ukraine's favor

dralley 7 months ago | parent [-]

You can't really imply kill ratios by the speed of the advance, it doesn't work like that.

AtlasBarfed 7 months ago | parent [-]

Go look at the history of WWI.

That is the historical analogue of the conflict.

dralley 7 months ago | parent [-]

No, it's not.

Fast advances often mean that the defender pulled back their forces, not that the defender got destroyed.

AtlasBarfed 7 months ago | parent [-]

Fast advances? Who is talking about fast advances?

What is happening is almost trench warfare. Ultra-slow front advancement, ultra-high casualties.

Now, maybe what you mean is when Ukraine has successes they are rapid and wide ranging like the Donbas counterassault about a year ago or the Kursk incursion.

But Russia has advanced only about 30 miles in the last year, tops. All while going through multiple rounds of conscription, mercenaries, and now North Korean shock troops.

The ultra slow front advancement combined with massive numbers of poorly trained conscripts means: really high casualty rate for the gained territory.

My sources are generally the UK media. TimesRadio is pretty rah-rah Ukraine, but other sources generally back up the fundamental claim:

Russia is lose 1000-1500/day to gain really small amounts of territory. For russia to win they'll need to progress another 200 miles, which at this rate means 2-3 million dead russians or more.

Russian advances are enabled by artillery shells. If the artillery losses mount and production issues appear in shell production, then suddenly the Russian ground forces will be sitting ducks and Ukraine will counterattack very effectively.

geysersam 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Bizarre propaganda.