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bargainbot3k 16 hours ago

> So, is it an echo chamber?

> The short answer is, yes, of course it is. Because Bluesky’s core userbase is made up of those who are fed up with the weaponized anger of Twitter and the liminal space of Threads, they automatically have a unifying identity.

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anonfordays 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Which is hilarious because all the leftists that used Twitter to weaponize their anger have move to BlueSky after they lost their echo chamber.

Onavo 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In other words tiktok is perfectly acceptable and good for you if it's Jack Dorsey who is backing it. Echo chambers amirite?

TacticalCoder 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Because Bluesky’s core userbase is made up of those who are fed up with the weaponized anger of Twitter...

There's no weaponized anger on Twitter. Twitter defends free speech. But you can't silence those who have views opposing your own echo chamber on X / Twitter anymore.

Those who want censorship to continue leave for Bluesky.

verdverm 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Free speech also means that I can decide what speech I listen to and participate in.

Bluesky gives me those controls as an individual, Elon is taking them away and forcing his prefered politics on everyone.

wat10000 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://x.com/ElonJet

Tostino 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Twitter defends free speech. Do you just take everything someone says at face value?

James_K 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As someone who never used Twitter before, the first thing I saw signing up to X earlier this years was a continual feed of exclusively black people doing crimes that would make Fox News blush, and people in the replies calling them subhuman. How would you describe this if not hate?

computably 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In case you're not being sarcastic...

Nov 2022, Musk promises not to ban ElonJet, a bot tracker that uses publicly available flight info: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

A month later, Twitter under Musk bans ElonJet, claiming it's tracking his "real time location"?: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/14/elonjet...

Followed by bans of Mastodon for tweeting a link to ElonJet's Mastodon: https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/15/23511894/twitter-suspend...

And bans of journalists for covering it (perhaps for linking the Mastodon?): https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/media/twitter-musk-journalist...

That article also mentions Twitter banning users for linking their own Mastodon profiles: "As the furor over the account suspensions unfolded, some Twitter users reported the platform had begun intervening when they attempted to post links to their own profiles on alternative social networks, including Mastodon."

Twitter then bans all usage of Twitter to share links to competing social networks: https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/18/23515221/twitter-bans-li...

Although the policy was quickly reverted after backlash, Musk said explicitly, "Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme": https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1604593057676300288

April 2023, Twitter blocks engagement on Substack link tweets, coincidentally after Substack announced a Twitter competitor: https://www.engadget.com/twitter-blocks-interactions-on-twee...

Twitter folds to a demand by the Indian government, for the first time censoring a tweet globally, not just in India: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/twitter-takes-down-po...

September 2024, Twitter finally releases a transparency report after skipping for 2 years (and the data for 2022-2023 are still missing btw): https://www.wired.com/story/x-twitter-first-transparency-rep...

That transparency report shows nearly 71% compliance with legal takedown requests, compared to ~50% max across previous reports.

pfych 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think it violates someone's free speech[^1] to ban them or call them out for spewing slurs or hateful rhetoric towards minorities. Twitter has become unusable over the last 6-12 months since "free speech" to some people thinks that gives them the right to harass others for not aligning with their ideas of what is "normal" or "correct".

Bluesky, and in turn, other sites are full of people who've fled Twitter due to the shift in general "vibes" and rhetoric from its users. And personally, those people are much more of a joy to be around.

[^1]: https://xkcd.com/1357/

hatefulmoron 15 hours ago | parent [-]

> I don't think it violates someone's free speech[^1] to ban them or call them out for spewing slurs or hateful rhetoric towards minorities.

It certainly doesn't violate someone's legal rights, in fact stopping Bluesky would be infringing on theirs.

I think the xkcd link is mostly mincing words, though. I think it does violate the general philosophical principle of freedom of speech to kick people out of a public place for having unpopular or offensive views. As long as social media companies hold most of the cards for political discussion (and represent themselves as where political discussion happens) it feels disingenuous to pretend that they're like a private household, who can kick people out for any reason. They are not. They're not just private get-togethers among friends, they're where politics happens in our societies.

alsetmusic 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Musk kicked off a bunch of Lfetist and progressive accounts when he took over. He rigged the platform to favor people with his political views. He sold check marks to put posts at the top of conversations to drown the platform in posts from his fan club. There’s nothing about free speech happening on twitter.

The people leaving for other platforms don’t want censorship. They want to get away from a toxic environment. Claiming otherwise is either ignorant or dishonest. (I have never had an account on twitter or any similar platform; I just pay attention to what people who used to like it and now hate it say.)

ThomPete 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

no he didnt

alsetmusic an hour ago | parent [-]

You're right. I was making up all that other shit. I'm a stupid leftist cuck. /s

MisterTea 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> There’s nothing about free speech happening on twitter.

At this point I think it should just be called X and reserve Twitter to be used in the past tense and in mourning.

rsoto2 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I really like Xitter pronounced "Shitter"

MisterTea 15 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean the whole X thing is kinda ironic as X can mean No as in crossed out. So Now you can imagine the twitter bird behind an X and think "It's dead, Jim."

verdverm 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I am particularly fond of the Monty Python meme with Elon trying to return the dead bird

verdverm 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Musk still calls it Twitter from time to time, the new name will never really take hold before the platform becomes largely irrelevant

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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anonfordays 15 hours ago | parent [-]

That will get you banned on one platform, while "there are only two genders" will get you banned on another.

utopicwork 11 hours ago | parent [-]

No it wont

anonfordays 9 hours ago | parent [-]

"Cisgender" won't get you banned on Twitter? Because "there are only two genders" will get you banned on BlueSky: https://www.newsweek.com/conservatives-join-bluesky-face-abu...

techbrovanguard 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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