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RomCom exploits Firefox and Windows zero days in the wild(welivesecurity.com)
56 points by croes 15 hours ago | 26 comments
elphinstone 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Good on Mozilla for the rapid response.

galangalalgol 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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ClassyJacket 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I exaggerate alot but even by my standards this is ridiculous hyperbole. Rust just isn't supported on alot of platforms and libraries.

dmitrygr 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> If you add new code to a sw project in c or c++ that should be a solid case for negligence when your customers sue for losses.

Sure, as long as you are ok being similarly sued next time you install or use windows, macos, or linux on some box you administer. Those are all written in C. I guess you're OS-less until you write one in something safe. Ditto for web browsers and bootloaders.

galangalalgol 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wasn't the first cut at windows me written in c#, maybe we can start there. The servo browser on redox isn't even completely free of c I think.

throw16180339 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think you're thinking of Windows Longhorn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista#M...). They used managed code and ended up partially scrapping it to restart development on top of Windows Server 2003.

smitelli 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Windows ME was just Win98SE in an ugly sweater. Mostly C/C++ with some assembly peppered in.

xahrepap 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe you’re thinking of this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_(operating_syste...

gpm 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Servo relies on firefox's JS runtime spidermonkey, written in C++.

ekr____ 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Moreover, a significant fraction of JS vulnerabilities are logic errors in the JIT, so even if the JIT itself is memory safe, that doesn't make the resulting code free of vulnerabilities.

qskousen 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Windows ME was the worst Windows though.

edm0nd 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hard agree.

Windows 98SE SP2 was the best

do_not_redeem 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Vista was the worst in my book. And Vista was actually the real turning point when C# started to infect Windows.

lmm 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> next time you install or use windows, macos, or linux on some box you administer.

I don't administer other people's boxes, I provide them with programs written in safe languages (as a bootable unikernel if they want). If they choose to run them on a buggy OS that's on them.

immibis 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Are there unsafe blocks in the bootable unikernel?

And does it actually work?

lmm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> Are there unsafe blocks in the bootable unikernel?

Probably. If that bothers you you can also run it on Lambda or something and let amazon worry about booting.

njtransit 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s not negligent it use an unsafe OS if no safer options exist. It is negligent to use an unsafe language when safe alternatives exist.

gigel82 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Visual programming like Scratch is safer than Rust so it's negligent if we don't all use Scratch next.

Also, everyone should pee sitting down by law because some are known to pee to on their pants otherwise.

/s

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oguz-ismail 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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do_not_redeem 12 hours ago | parent [-]

His name is galangalalgol. Fashionable, visionary leader of the rust evangelism strike force. And don't you forget it.

(Read in the voice of Tribore Menendez)

throw16180339 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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tux3 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The headline is about Firefox on Windows for a good reason: that's where the regular users are.

If you want Rust on Nonstop, a niche proprietary platform, your large financial company is welcome to invest in it.

lmm 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> AIX, i/OS, z/OS, Nonstop OS, OpenVMS, or Stratus VOS

A list of which Firefox runs on precisely none.

jiggawatts 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Aren't most of these servers operating systems anyway, with no GUI desktops?

userbinator 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

JavaScript file containing the exploit

Another reason to turn off JS by default.