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> If you add new code to a sw project in c or c++ that should be a solid case for negligence when your customers sue for losses.

Sure, as long as you are ok being similarly sued next time you install or use windows, macos, or linux on some box you administer. Those are all written in C. I guess you're OS-less until you write one in something safe. Ditto for web browsers and bootloaders.

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galangalalgol 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wasn't the first cut at windows me written in c#, maybe we can start there. The servo browser on redox isn't even completely free of c I think.

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throw16180339 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think you're thinking of Windows Longhorn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista#M...). They used managed code and ended up partially scrapping it to restart development on top of Windows Server 2003.

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smitelli 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Windows ME was just Win98SE in an ugly sweater. Mostly C/C++ with some assembly peppered in.

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xahrepap 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe you’re thinking of this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_(operating_syste...

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gpm 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Servo relies on firefox's JS runtime spidermonkey, written in C++.

	▲	ekr____ 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Moreover, a significant fraction of JS vulnerabilities are logic errors in the JIT, so even if the JIT itself is memory safe, that doesn't make the resulting code free of vulnerabilities.

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qskousen 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Windows ME was the worst Windows though.

	▲	edm0nd 14 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Hard agree. Windows 98SE SP2 was the best
	▲	do_not_redeem 14 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Vista was the worst in my book. And Vista was actually the real turning point when C# started to infect Windows.

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lmm 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> next time you install or use windows, macos, or linux on some box you administer.

I don't administer other people's boxes, I provide them with programs written in safe languages (as a bootable unikernel if they want). If they choose to run them on a buggy OS that's on them.

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immibis 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Are there unsafe blocks in the bootable unikernel?

And does it actually work?

	▲	lmm 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Are there unsafe blocks in the bootable unikernel? Probably. If that bothers you you can also run it on Lambda or something and let amazon worry about booting.

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njtransit 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s not negligent it use an unsafe OS if no safer options exist. It is negligent to use an unsafe language when safe alternatives exist.

	▲	gigel82 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Visual programming like Scratch is safer than Rust so it's negligent if we don't all use Scratch next. Also, everyone should pee sitting down by law because some are known to pee to on their pants otherwise. /s