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tptacek 3 days ago

It wasn't a request routing outage; apps running on Fly.io didn't stop running. It was a deployments outage. For reasons passing understanding (I am reliably informed I'm wrong to complain about this), our website is the same Elixir app as our dashboard, and the dashboard got redeployed at one point. Our website being down is not the same as the whole service being down, though I guess there's a truth-in-advertising poetry to it being down when deployments are busted.

sevenseacat 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of apps did stop running - https://community.fly.io/t/fly-io-site-is-currently-inaccess...

The entire API was also unusable, not just deployments.

tptacek 2 days ago | parent [-]

Sorry, you're right: pretty much any time I'm saying deployments are blocked, I'm really saying the API was down.

itbeho 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm not sure if your explanation is comforting or disconcerting.

tptacek 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Why not both? Tell me what's comforting and I'll tell you why you shouldn't be comforted; tell me why you're disconcerted and I'll tell you maybe something else. All we can do is be straight about things.

pajeetz 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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tptacek 3 days ago | parent [-]

I'm an HN person before I'm a Fly.io person, and as an HN person I find the points you're trying to make --- anybody can see them throughout the thread simply by searching your name --- tedious.

As a businessperson, I don't think I have much to gain by genuflecting to the importance of reliability; everybody I care about on this site shares an understanding with us that reliability is important, though apparently not with you that all these systems are fallible. So I'm making the decision not to genuflect, and instead call you out --- you in particular, anonymous, venomous, green-named commenter --- as a a writer of boring and facile attempted dunks.

pajeetz 3 days ago | parent [-]

Are we not allowed to expect reliable uptimes from a cloud provider? What part of "fly.io has a documented history of prolonged downtimes and data redundancy issues" do you disagree with? Are you calling everybody liars who have had bad experience with fly.io, frankly, business and reputation loss that came as a result of trusting fly.io ?

tptacek 3 days ago | parent [-]

Nobody has called anybody a liar. I'm very comfortable with what i've said thus far on this thread, so maybe we're fine leaving it here.

pajeetz 2 days ago | parent [-]

is that why you are going through all my comments and flagging and downvoting? you know this just makes you look even worse right?

tptacek 2 days ago | parent [-]

That's not how flags work on HN: I can't flag your responses to me. For a variety of reasons, and for better or worse, I'm very comfortable with how I come across on HN.

To twist the knife just a little bit, I'll refer you though to the guidelines:

Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html