Remix.run Logo
psunavy03 8 hours ago

Dumb shits misapplying Agile because "we do standups" are dead. The entire point is and always has been to get the right people working on the right stuff in such a way that they can validate their assumptions and get customer feedback as soon as possible. Not how well you "do Scrum," "increase your velocity," or any of that trash. But actually applying these concepts breaks some managers' brains, and then we get the toxic crap people rant about.

The fundamental assumptions behind Agile are as valid as they were 25 years ago. The problem(s) are control freak managers who are incapable of coaching their teams into taking charge at the local level, devs "who just want to code" and not think for themselves about the larger context of the work, and bullshit "life coaches" using Agile coaching as a way to "break into tech" with no tech skills.

This is fundamentally a crisis of incompetence, where people are failing to implement what at its roots is a better way of working, in certain contexts anyway, because they fear giving power and control to the rank and file.

myhf 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So true. 90% of Agile practitioners give the rest a bad reputation.

AtlasBarfed 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Um....

Isn't there some rule of thumb where some substantial threshold of popular regard defined it?

I mean I get if there is first principles derivation of a concept, but agilation is not that.

Agile is really a communal/socialist mechanism that is ruined the second management more than one later up injects themselves.

... Which is 100% of the time

zelphirkalt an hour ago | parent [-]

Not really in this case, because the manifesto was put out there from the beginning. People's incompetence to actually look at a website and read 4 phrases and doing fake agile is one thing. Agile is another.

aulin 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Mostly agree, but process is a way to tame the incompetence, if incompetence wins process has failed

jajko 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, yes, but - it clearly doesn't work well to only come up with a good idea like that. After initial momentum, people often took it elsewhere, or abandoned.

Which tells you a lot about people out there. Maybe one can't force a shiny cool shoe on a feet incapable of using it well, even if it would be great in many aspects. Maybe we need something that is easier adaptable by real people making up real teams and organizations out there, not just cool books and trainings.

alganet 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The most adaptable, flexible, maleable methodology is and will always be XGH.

https://medium.com/@dekaah/22-axioms-of-the-extreme-go-horse...