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Deno vs. Oracle: Canceling the JavaScript Trademark(deno.com)
45 points by frou_dh 6 hours ago | 12 comments
xdmr 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Can anyone speak to whether this is likely to succeed on its merits, or point to analysis of same by competent professionals?

Obviously, it looks like a pretty egregious case of Oracle-ness, but it's the job of Deno's lawyers to make it look like that. I'd be interested to see disinterested commentary.

gnabgib 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Related:

Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript (277 points, 70 days ago, 127 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41557383

Deno is filing a USPTO petition to cancel Oracle's JavaScript trademark (7 points, 3 days ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42212949

paxys 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Claim #2 is particularly egregious. If it actually has merit, and if a judge is willing to hold a large corporation accountable for breaking the law (lol), someone at Oracle needs to be charged and prosecuted for it.

mbStavola 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Didn't know about Oracle using Node as an example of them building/selling things utilizing the "JavaScript" trademark. I think the post's framing of this being fraudulent is accurate, but even if it didn't legally qualify, it is at the very least extremely dishonest and unethical.

orliesaurus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is either for the greater good of the whole JavaScript community or a PR stunt to just get in the news. Or both.

sgammon 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GraalJs, it would seem, would count.

sgammon 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s not “obscure” or “exotic;” at least, no more than Node was when it was released. Honestly this is such a lame take to those of us who are working in JS outside of Node and Deno.

And people do work at that intersection.

IMO Deno is the worst option of all new JS runtimes and taking on this fight kind of makes sense that way. If you can’t win mindshare, start a fight. I guess. (In my opinion they should have simply designed Deno to be NPM compatible, but here we are.)

lucacasonato 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Deno is NPM compatible

ultrakorn2 an hour ago | parent [-]

`is:open is:issue label:bug label:"node compat"` -> 203 issues currently open.

harrisi 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

Neat. But for a relevant query, try searching for "npm" instead. 0 issues listed. Further, in the `deno_npm` repo for npm resolving by the deno cli, there are two open issues. One is a feature request, and the other is not clearly an important issue.

orta 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Good luck

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