In which case, both you and the article can’t be bothered to step outside and understand the market.

Or are you both claiming that Apple has an entire multi decade line of products it keeps refreshing without a market? And they dedicate valuable retail space to something that doesn’t sell?

This just feels like hubris of not being able to envision other people.

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RandomThoughts3 7 months ago | parent [-]

> Or are you both claiming that Apple has an entire multi decade line of products it keeps refreshing without a market?

Yes, pretty much.

That’s why they still use the same 2021 screen, they now only have one size, the board is basically a Mac mini glued inside a screen and they barely produce any.

It’s not even stocked at most retailers.

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dagmx 7 months ago | parent [-]

I am flummoxed by your train of thought here, and I really do think part of it is you’re not thinking through what goes into a product.

Firstly, look at any tear down. The boards aren’t identical. Beyond that, it still requires specific tooling, specific power delivery and engineering, as well as parts that aren’t shared.

So in your weird business view, you think Apple is doing all of that regardless of market share. For what purpose?

Then beyond that, they also spend significant money to market it, and again you believe they do so despite a lack of market?

Beyond that, they have expensive retail spaces and many products vying for attention. Yet they dedicate significant amounts of space to a product you claim has no market? You also claim they're not stocked at most retailers, yet I can walk into the Best Buy and Staples near me and they have iMacs available. So what incentive would they have?

If everything you say is true, then you must surely think Apple is both incredibly stupid and flushing billions of dollars away on a product line that isn’t selling?

How about we try approaching this the other way, and you explain why you think Apple would do such a thing, year after year?

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RandomThoughts3 7 months ago | parent [-]

> So in your weird business view, you think Apple is doing all of that regardless of market share. For what purpose?

Yes, very much and that’s a good question. I guess they consider the iMac to be important in the branding they want to maintain but money wise, hard to explain.

They believe in it so much they are already discounting it right now. A brand new product.

It was made completely irrelevant by the Mac Mini lineup with which is a better alternative if you want a desktop.

> Then beyond that, they also spend significant money to market it

Apple barely does any marketing for the iMac.

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dagmx 7 months ago | parent [-]

So you have a theory that you can’t explain and you believe in strongly, in spite of tons of evidence that counters your theory? You believe it’s simultaneously important to their brand but is a product that has no market? How does that even make sense to you, let alone others?

That’s a lot of mental hoops to jump through. Would the simpler answer just be that you’re wrong?

And Apple does the same amount of marketing for its iMac as it does for every other Mac.

Also, Where are you seeing M4 iMacs at a first party discount? Certainly not on the Apple Store.

	▲	RandomThoughts3 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		> tons of evidence that counters your theory? Which evidence? All the evidence points to the iMac being a massive dude slowly being phased out. I don’t think I’m jumping through weird hoops. I think you are in denial because you somehow want the iMac to be a wanted product for a reason I fail to understand (are you on the iMac team?). > And Apple does the same amount of marketing for its iMac as it does for every other Mac. Very funny. Apple does significant marketing for the laptop here in Europe. The iMac could at well not exist.