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RandomThoughts3 3 hours ago

> The market for these doesn’t care about any of the stuff you mentioned.

Yes, that’s because this market basically doesn’t exist which is indeed the Verge point.

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brailsafe 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The difference between your opinion and theirs is that theirs is based on observation, experience, and anecdotes from people who fill that market, and yours is based on speculative extrapolation from a narrower version of observation, anecdotes, experience, based on the fact that you're suggesting it doesn't exist and they've/I've seen it existing. The people who know it to be true will read their thoughts about the market you think doesn't exist, and will agree, and the ones who haven't and don't think it should be rational will agree with you.

It does exist. Schools, kids, various platform independent in-office work computers, old people, all kinds; even introducing one layer of complexity and going down one step in prettiness just isn't worth it sometimes.

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dagmx 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In which case, both you and the article can’t be bothered to step outside and understand the market.

Or are you both claiming that Apple has an entire multi decade line of products it keeps refreshing without a market? And they dedicate valuable retail space to something that doesn’t sell?

This just feels like hubris of not being able to envision other people.

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RandomThoughts3 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Or are you both claiming that Apple has an entire multi decade line of products it keeps refreshing without a market?

Yes, pretty much.

That’s why they still use the same 2021 screen, they now only have one size, the board is basically a Mac mini glued inside a screen and they barely produce any.

It’s not even stocked at most retailers.

	▲	dagmx 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I am flummoxed by your train of thought here, and I really do think part of it is you’re not thinking through what goes into a product. Firstly, look at any tear down. The boards aren’t identical. Beyond that, it still requires specific tooling, specific power delivery and engineering, as well as parts that aren’t shared. So in your weird business view, you think Apple is doing all of that regardless of market share. For what purpose? Then beyond that, they also spend significant money to market it, and again you believe they do so despite a lack of market? Beyond that, they have expensive retail spaces and many products vying for attention. Yet they dedicate significant amounts of space to a product you claim has no market? You also claim they're not stocked at most retailers, yet I can walk into the Best Buy and Staples near me and they have iMacs available. So what incentive would they have? If everything you say is true, then you must surely think Apple is both incredibly stupid and flushing billions of dollars away on a product line that isn’t selling? How about we try approaching this the other way, and you explain why you think Apple would do such a thing, year after year?