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Swiftair Boeing 737-400 crashes short of runway Vilnius Airport(aviation24.be)
37 points by sva_ 7 hours ago | 17 comments
neoromantique 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Reports of explosions prior to crash, local police does not rule out terror attack yet.

orbital-decay 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHBuOBxfJEk CCTV footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAUUteXo9rY ATC recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s57TOGrg-jU trajectory

https://avherald.com/h?article=520c0e2b&opt=0 avherald entry

Looks like CFIT. They flew below the glide slope and impacted the terrain.

20after4 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Perhaps related: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/dhl-express/russian-sabot...

sva_ 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had to shorten the title due to limit. It was a cargo plane operating for DHL.

netsharc 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Honestly the shortening buried the fact that it's a cargo flight and made it more shocking/clickbaity - I heard about a plane crashing in Lithuania before I saw your headline so I was aware which crash was being referred to.

Adding " (DHL cargo) " before "crashes" would've fit the title limitations...

sedan_baklazhan 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unexpected part of this is that most pilots survived the crash. I don't understand how that's possible given the explosion visible on CCTVs

gsf_emergency 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The explosions triggered way before crash, terrorism not ruled out (see links below)

sedan_baklazhan 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So if the plane exploded even in the air, how could the pilots survive?

gsf_emergency 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Not much (public) data to back what I said. See the video I linked below

Going to follow avherald now

piva00 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Where do you see that? All the videos I've seen show the plane flying fine on the glide slope but the tree line is obstructed on the camera, the explosions appear when the plane is way below the obstructions.

Edit: found a video I hadn't seen before, you can clearly see the airplane on the glide slope abruptly trying to pitch up before impact[0].

[0] https://v.redd.it/rhsqd0ntp03e1

gsf_emergency 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

Pilots were surprised

https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2422543/no-signs-of...

this is the best angle so far (it's linked to in your link as well)

https://youtu.be/MXyXgSu5CBE https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1gzhfx2/another_a...

"Plane... skidded several hundred metres" https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241125-dhl-cargo-pla...

piva00 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nothing in these videos indicate your initial statement though, there's no visible damage before the crash so I'm still puzzled on how you reached that initial conclusion.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that right now there's nothing I see to support there was an earlier explosion as you stated.

> The explosions triggered way before crash

gsf_emergency 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

Sorry I should have added that bit was my own deduction..

Since the explosion you see did not seem to be due to impact with treeline (seems to me plane stayed on the landing path until point of explosion )

eqvinox 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Discussion on https://avherald.com/h?article=520c0e2b&opt=0 seems to tend towards pilot error. Plane's ILS may not have locked on to glide slope and pilots went too low and too fast. Maybe missed the point where they should've gone around.

But all just speculation, and I'm just summarizing too. It'll take some time to get answers, all we seem to have right now is alarmist politicians milking the topic.

neoromantique 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

>all we seem to have right now is alarmist politicians milking the topic.

On the contrary, we have all sorts of escalation management appeasers trying to avoid putting any possible blame on Russia for this, despite constant EW and GPS jamming in the region.

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rderewianko 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

At first I thought Taylor Swift had an airline for her two planes...