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cryptica 15 hours ago

I refuse to use Bluesky because it is clearly being pushed on the masses, in collusion with mainstream media, as an alternative to X. Clearly another attempt by certain people to control information. It's shocking how people fall for this stuff over and over again.

I hope if backfires, mostly draws in users from existing speech-unfriendly platforms and then the number of social media platforms will multiply from here onward and a large number of platforms will compete based on who is most permissive with regards to speech.

Most of the highly suggestible masses already moved off X to Threads... So now that Bluesky is being pushed hard, I hope the suggestible people from Threads will switch over and split up their censorship ecosystems.

It makes sense from that perspective. The censored ecosystems should be separated into lots of small platforms because you need a lot of different filter bubbles to maintain the deceptions and impermeable information silos. A large centralized ecosystem will create too many opportunities for exposure to alternative information so it cannot be controlled as well.

In the future, there will be a different platform for every kind of delusion and each one will focus on its own delusion and will make up stories to discredit rival platforms so people always doubt information received outside.

It's a matter of time before large corporations start preventing their employees from using non-approved platforms. They'll probably use cybersecurity safety as an excuse. They might carry out hacking false flags on their own employees to convince them to not use other platforms they won't feel forced.

jazzyjackson 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I broadly agree with your perspective however I think you've missed that bluesky is specifically architected to facilitate the coexistence of bubbles : shared block lists, client based moderation, portability in case you account is banned from a particular host etc, Bluesky is well positioned for a future where cliques don't want to hear from one another

cryptica 14 hours ago | parent [-]

That's too bad but I guess if people want to silo themselves in, they should be allowed. I just hope that big corporations don't eventually coerce everyone into this through economic force.

I can see a future where corporations control the entire economy. Startups or parallel economy would be impossible due to regulatory moats and monetary asymmetries and everyone would be forced to lock themselves into a filter bubble in order to get a job... To survive.

Imagine knowing what's happening and not having the power refuse... And by that point, the power would be granted fully artificially out of a money printer, distributed straight into the coffers of select big corporations on the basis of secret mutual agreements between each other. All under the banner of MMT? This is beyond immoral.

More specific to your point, it makes sense why the entities behind the censorship push might still want a single platform, but simply with better 'siloing' capability. It's likely that the same people who want censorship, also want mass surveillance. Mind-bending to think that there exist a conflict between these two dystopian aspects! They really want to have the cake and eat it too.

praisewhitey 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>It's a matter of time before large corporations start preventing their employees from using non-approved platforms. They'll probably use cybersecurity safety as an excuse.

Already happened with TikTok.

drivingmenuts 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And you don't think the desire to get away from Elon Musk and the MAGA crowd had anything to do with it? Nothing good was ever going to come about because of Elon's stupid acquisition. That was made painfully obvious when Xitter stopped paying their bills - I guess in the hopes that creditors would be forced to arbitrate lower payments on debts owed to them (which is bullshit for a billionaire to be doing, but you don't get to be a billionaire by being nice, fully ethical, moral or legal). Then we had a demonstration of sheer stupidity Elon told advertisers to fuck off, so they did, and now he's all hurt and lawsuity.

What good do you see in that? Who wouldn't want to get away from that stupidity?

cryptica 15 hours ago | parent [-]

From my perspective, X experience has improved a lot since Elon's acquisition.

What actually got worse materially? I hear a lot of gesturing 'Orange man bad', 'Elon help orange man, so Elon bad' but I cannot reach any of these conclusions from first principles looking at Trump's policies while he was President... Aside from the Jan 6 incident... But I don't see consensus there between either side so I do have some doubts and questions about the true nature of that incident. The fact is, nobody on Jan 6 had guns besides police officers. How can that possibly be an insurrection? Please correct me if I'm wrong there.

_DeadFred_ 14 hours ago | parent [-]

The confederate flag has only been raised inside our capital buildings once, and that was on Jan 6.

cryptica 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, you can't overthrow a government with a piece of cloth. So I still don't see how it could be called an insurrection.

drivingmenuts 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Just because you suck at doing something doesn't change what you're attempting to do. They were there to execute elected officials and attempt to stop required processes in the belief that would invalidate an election they lost.

Sounds like an insurrection to me.