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> When did on-call become so accepted and demanded from employers?

As a 50 something year old software engineer. Its always been like this. I'm kinda shocked at how reluctant the new generation is to support the systems. Sure we'd all prefer strict 9-5 hours but most companies rely on software to stay in business and you need experts available in case things go wrong.

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szszrk 2 days ago | parent [-]

If you need experts 24/7, you should have had shifts that cover that timeframe.

Oncall is a source of so many ways for abuse, don't even ask me how I know. Saying that rejecting Oncall is denying support for you system is bollocks.

I'm happy that younger engineers mostly laught at that concept and leave. Once of the few lessons they are teaching us (the old pricks), especially in self care and respect space.

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rr808 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe you're right, systems these days are more 24/7 than they used to be seems like devs these days have had it so easy for so long though.

	▲	szszrk 20 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		My observation so far is that businesses don't aim at 24/7 any more. At least not officially. They just accept some downtime if that means less staff and other costs. It's a big shift in thinking, IMO caused mostly by people not opposing abuse more.