| ▲ | NotYourLawyer 5 days ago |
| To be fair, that comment was about the claim: > emerging research showing that up to 40 per cent of the weight lost by people using weight-loss drugs is actually muscle Which is… obviously bullshit. |
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| ▲ | kiba 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| You lose muscle when you lose weight, especially if weight loss is rapid. This is why it's important to be physically active when you're losing weight. It doesn't matter if you're on drug or not. |
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| ▲ | sabbaticaldev 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| they might have confused muscle and lean mass/FFM |
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| ▲ | _heimdall 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The source article links to a reference for the 40 percent claim, which itself links to a couple articles that aren't available without a JAMA account. I can't read the original sources there, but what makes you say its obviously bullshit? |
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| ▲ | bcoates 5 days ago | parent [-] | | From the abstract: "Studies suggest muscle loss with these medications (as indicated by decreases in fat-free mass [FFM]) ranges from 25% to 39% of the total weight lost over 36–72 weeks. This substantial muscle loss can be largely attributed to the magnitude of weight loss, rather than by an independent effect of GLP-1 receptor agonists, although this hypothesis must be tested. By comparison, non-pharmacological caloric restriction studies with smaller magnitudes of weight loss result in 10–30% FFM losses." The "surprising" part is kinda bullshit, and implies there's something special about glp-1s. It is the opposite of surprising that weight loss includes a lean mass loss. That said, being skinnyfat is probably bad for you and the idea that you should work to preserve/build muscle and not only lose weight is a good one. | | |
| ▲ | mr_toad 5 days ago | parent [-] | | FFM isn’t entirely muscle, but what other weight would be shed when losing FFM other than muscle? | | |
| ▲ | nordsieck 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > FFM isn’t entirely muscle, but what other weight would be shed when losing FFM other than muscle? I'm not an expert, but I have to imagine that most of it is muscle. After dramatic weight loss, a person will probably lose some bone - particularly in the lower body - due to decreased loading. I know body builders sometimes eat extremely high protein diets (more than 1 g/lbs of body weight) and lift quite hard to try to hang on to as much muscle mass as possible. And they still lose some when cutting. | |
| ▲ | cthalupa 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Water weight is a big one, and is part of your FFM. I lost 10lb of water weight in my first 24 hours on tirzepatide. Some of it is likely bone density as well. You can prevent the bone density and muscle loss with proper diet and exercise, though. | | |
| ▲ | hombre_fatal 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Googling it, 70% of FFM is water. Yeah, I've swung 10lbs in 24 hours just going from well fed to fasted without water. And it certainly wasn't fat I lost, just water and I'm surely any mass in my... various tracts. |
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