New cars already have it.

Lockstep processors, hardware security modules with immutable unreadable keys, and PKI keys that the mfg holds the private for that can only be accessed on their online services.

It’s locked down now and this started in 2018 or so. It’s just worse now.

To automotive, there is really still no right to repair. They get around it by selling “3 day passes” to their service, but with their hardware and at their prices.

They’re all moving the Tesla system of more centralized brain systems which will be even more protected.

▲ misterderpie 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sad to hear. I am not a car owner, but lived in the EU for most of my life. The consumer market owes quite some consumer rights to the EU, so I guess all we can do is hope that they'll eventually crack down on these measurements again.

	▲	PorciiVorbesc 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> The consumer market owes quite some consumer rights to the EU Not for car owners/consumers in the EU. Auto makers and dealers get away with a lot of shady shit fucking over their customers in the EU all the time. For example we in the EU don't have the same trigger happiness of NHTSA mass recalls the Americans have, but matters of such auto issues/defects is left to individual member states or even at individual case by case to decide what action is needed, and responses are a lot weaker and more limp-dick than in the US, almost never leading to mass recalls, even for the same issues[1], mainly because the US is more litigious making car manufacturers to be on the edge and proactive to issues. Like sibling said, there are incentives to regulate stuff that has no impact on EU businesses, shit like USB-C or replaceable batteries, but they won't touch the auto industry to mandate easier repairs and less lock-downs. Brand & Models \| Defect \| US Action \| EU Action ------------------+--------------------+----------------+------------------ BMW (2011-2018) \| Coolant pump plug \| NHTSA recall \| Excluded from N20/N26 engines \| short / fire risk \| (720k+ cars) \| recall ------------------+--------------------+----------------+------------------ VW / Audi (08-13) \| Timing chain \| 10yr/100k mi \| No recall; case- 2.0T EA888 \| tensioner failure \| warranty + $ \| by-case goodwill ------------------+--------------------+----------------+------------------ Ford Focus/Fiesta \| DPS6 PowerShift \| 10yr/150k TCM \| No recall; few (2011-2016) \| transmission fail \| + buybacks \| buybacks/payouts ------------------+--------------------+----------------+------------------ Hyundai / Kia \| Theta II / Nu GDI \| 3M+ recalled + \| No mass recall (2011-2019) \| bearing/fire risk \| lifetime wrty \| (diff specs/plants) ------------------+--------------------+----------------+------------------ Tesla 3/Y/S/X \| Autopilot nag & \| 2M+ NHTSA OTA \| No EU recall (2021-2024) \| UI font compliance \| recalls \| (UNECE rules)
	▲	abletonlive 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> The consumer market owes quite some consumer rights to the EU Let's be clear that it's just incentives. If the EU economy was based on creating companies and new products there would not be as many incentives for consumer "rights" there.

▲ knowaveragejoe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm hoping the slate truck will be different, and that whatever problems emerge out of giving consumers real control over the hardware they purchased doesn't hamstring the company somehow.

▲ dawnerd 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Which also has the real nifty benefit of a RRS via subscriptions!