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▲ 2OEH8eoCRo0 3 hours ago

Starship HLS is estimated to require 22 refueling launches to support 1 moon mission.

▲Ankaios 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

OP, this is probably the source of the confusion. Some people are claiming that SpaceX will need 20+ refueling launches for human lunar landings. However, that's a very different claim than reusable rockets requiring 23x more launches just to carry the same amount of payload to Earth orbit.

▲echoangle 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Without knowing how much it would take in expendable configuration, that doesn’t imply that it takes 23 times as many launches

▲wat10000 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How is that even relevant? The Starship HLS launch won’t be landing the upper stage.