| ▲ | dragontamer a day ago |
| But I've been an American for decades. I _KNOW_ how foreigners talk about USA. * Big portions of our meals? Check. If some European were taking pictures or talking up the SuperSize meal at McDonalds then yeah, that's "normal". * Mega-Highways? Check. Our roads are a marvel to everyone (please ignore our lack of public transit. But at least we have highways). Both the shear size and scale, not just of the roads but also of our cars. * Gun Ranges? Yeah, that's normal depending on which culture they came from. Some people like hunting and gun ranges. * Size of the country? (2 hour drive is just one state over). Big road trips? Yeah. Etc. etc. I already KNOW what foreigners think of my country. But freaking air conditioning? No. Even poor Filipinos have air conditioning and aren't really wow'd by it these days. Certainly not in 2026. Filipinos will talk about maybe the "new air con bus" (in contrast to the Jeepny they used to take), but that's about how the Philippines has improved... a point of pride for the Filipinos and not an item of foreign wonder when visiting the USA. If there's wonder or exasperation, its actually a negative. Filipinos find the air conditioning settings way too cold here in the USA to the point of annoyance. They're not "happy" about it like how it happens in these meme videos. If someone's skin is used to 80F, 90F or higher temperatures, sitting in 68F all the time is downright uncomfortable. Europeans? Japanese? Koreans? They're even richer than Filipinos. They aren't going to be wow'd by this at all. They already have access to air conditioning, maybe not quite as much as us Americans but its not really a point of exasperation or wonder. |
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| ▲ | rsynnott 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Our roads are a marvel to everyone (please ignore our lack of public transit. But at least we have highways). Both the shear size and scale, not just of the roads but also of our cars. I would say not necessarily 'marvel' in a positive sense. I've mostly only been to San Francisco (generally there once a year) but that elevated roadway through the city is a blight; it's absolutely awful. Also it seems to constantly have ridiculous traffic. > They already have access to air conditioning, maybe not quite as much as us Americans but its not really a point of exasperation or wonder. Yeah, this is a particularly weird internet belief about Europe. Regions where the weather historically justified it have domestic air conditioning; in regions where it rarely gets hot it's usually mostly confined to commercial use (commercial spaces have way more waste heat; 100 people in a room is ~equivalent to running a 10kW heating system constantly). What you're seeing now is that some regions which historically almost never got hot are suddenly getting hot fairly frequently due to climate change; they're shifting from "domestic aircon would be silly, you'd run it for two days a year" to "maybe it's needed now". Speaking of San Francisco, most homes in San Francisco don't have air conditioning; it hasn't yet come under the sort of climactic pressure which would make it necessary. |
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| ▲ | cryzinger a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Europe and the Philippines have very different climates, though. Most of Europe hasn't historically had the kind of weather where you need air conditioning, hence why many (most?) people still don't have it, whereas the Philippines is obviously tropical. Climate change is just pushing Europe into hotter weather where now air conditioning is, suddenly, worth considering. |
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| ▲ | dragontamer a day ago | parent [-] | | I've been to Europe. (Portugal, Spain, and Germany) They have air conditioning, they just don't leave it running. Its not a point of wonder or amusement. The World Cup meme was so obviously fake to anyone who has actually met Europeans or other foreigners. | | |
| ▲ | vigilantpuma a day ago | parent | next [-] | | A lot of the time individuals in Europe literally don’t have air conditioning. We were in Germany and Italy during a heatwave this summer. In Munich I managed to find a hotel with aircon, in Italy I didn’t. Massive museums in Munich don’t have air conditioning. We visited a friend who lives in a small town in Bavaria. He doesn’t have air conditioning, neither do any of his neighbors. Keep in mind that the heatwave hit like 100 degrees. My European colleagues were visibly exhausted by the heat in our meetings because, again, they don’t have air conditioning. I’m not saying it’s a technology that’s foreign to the continent, obviously not. I don’t know if this wonder was genuine (I didn’t see that, I mostly saw a lot of Americans expressing contempt of Europeans for not having aircon). But A LOT of places you’d expect to have air conditioning don’t have it, and a LOT of homes don’t have it. It’s not that they simply leave it off in 100 degree heat. Arguably because they simply haven’t needed it until the last few years. But the fact remains. | | |
| ▲ | Supernaut a day ago | parent | next [-] | | > they simply haven’t needed it until the last few years Correct, and that's all there is to it. And once there's a general acceptance on the continent that global warming has permanently pushed summer temperatures into the danger zone, people will start installing aircon. It's a shame, but it's a direct consequence of the damage that humanity has done to our planet. I'm very glad that I live somewhere where even now, it almost never gets hotter than 25°C. | |
| ▲ | laurencerowe a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It’s the same here in San Francisco. Most homes don’t have air conditioning because it’s so rarely necessary. Things get pretty uncomfortable for a week or two if we have a heatwave and I think about buying a window unit then it’s over and I forget for another year. It’s just a completely different climate to the eastern US where humidity makes even moderate heat unbearable for much of the year. | |
| ▲ | alpaca128 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Europeans have AC in every car and many hotels. We know what it is and that it can be nice in summer. Sure I don't have one at home but I'm not going to go wild over a normal household appliance. | |
| ▲ | rsynnott 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Massive museums in Munich don’t have air conditioning. Are you sure it wasn't just broken? Large commercial spaces do tend to have it, because lots of people produce lots of heat. 100 people in a room is ~equivalent to running a 10kW heater constantly. Unless the temperature outside is _reliably_ under about 20 degrees (in which case you can maybe get by on active ventilation) you're going to need it, really. > We were in Germany and Italy during a heatwave this summer. In Munich I managed to find a hotel with aircon, in Italy I didn’t. Okay, I'm sorry, if you couldn't find a hotel with aircon in Italy you weren't looking too hard. I just went on Google Maps, searched hotels in Rome, took a random 70 euro/night hotel (an Ibis Budget), has aircon. I'm pretty certain just about any of the budget chains will have it, never mind the higher end ones. | | |
| ▲ | vigilantpuma 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, I’m sure it wasn’t just broken. Feel free to google if the Deutsches Museum in Munich doesn’t have air conditioning. We weren’t in Rome. |
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| ▲ | ricardobayes 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Germany used to have cloudy, rainy 68-77F summers. I remember being actually cold at night and wearing a light coat when camping in Germany, and needing wellington boots. Most Central European places simply didn't need AC, neither did UK, which never had really hot summers. We will see if this summer was a once off, or will we need AC going forward. | | |
| ▲ | vigilantpuma 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Haven’t 6 of the last 10 years had severe heat waves in Germany? | | |
| ▲ | tpm 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yet there is a heat wave with 34°C maximums and then there is a heat wave with 42°C maximums like this year. Neither was common 20 years ago, but while the former is manageable for a few days without AC if the nights are cool enough, the latter is not. |
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| ▲ | disgruntledphd2 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > We will see if this summer was a once off, or will we need AC going forward. Climate change will likely bring much more variability in temperatures, so we'll probably need both AC and better cold infrastructure. Joy. |
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| ▲ | ponector a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | You know why the AC is not common in residential buildings? Because they are build with stones and concrete and can handle a few days of heat during the summer. Close the windows and curtains during the day and let fresh air at night and you'll be fine during the summer in Germany. | | |
| ▲ | seba_dos1 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes. This year's heat waves were perhaps the first time in my life when simply closing the window at day and airing it out at night wasn't enough as nights rarely went below 20°C for almost two weeks. Usually you'd get one or two tropical nights a year. | |
| ▲ | vigilantpuma 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There were like 16K heat related deaths in Germany this summer. Seems like it’s not working. |
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| ▲ | cryzinger a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I can't speak to your experience directly, and obviously Europe is not a monolith, but I did read this recently: > Only some twenty-five per cent of French homes have air-conditioning, compared with around sixty per cent in Italy and eighty-nine per cent in the United States. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/08/24/the-end-of-the... | | |
| ▲ | dragontamer a day ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, like the Philippines. AC is common enough for everyone to have seen and felt AC. Especially at malls, busses or other public places. USA has more AC but that's not really going to wow anyone. Even in the Philippines, there's plenty of hotels with AC if the locals want to spend extra money on a vacation. But more realistically, Filipinos will get large amounts of AC at movie theaters or malls. Even if its not something Filipinos can afford in their individual homes, its something that they'd have come across in their daily lives, and it wouldn't be something that they get "wow'd" by. Fewer than 25% of homes in the Philippines have AC, and I promise you that the climate in the Philippines is much much worse than even USA. Far more humidity and heat. Europe has milder temperatures than USA so they don't need AC (but they have enough money / luxuries that they can afford AC in public places like malls or busses). ----------- But seriously, have you met anyone who is used to living without AC as they enter the USA and all of our AC? They actually and actively complain about things being too cold all the time. Its a point of discomfort, not a thing to make a Youtube video and brag about. |
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| ▲ | rsynnott 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think domestic aircon would be pretty unusual in large parts of Germany, though, obviously, yeah, it's everywhere in Portugal and Spain. > Its not a point of wonder or amusement. Yeah, I'm not sure who could possibly have bought that. |
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| ▲ | ponector a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >> Filipinos find the air conditioning settings way too cold here in the USA to the point of annoyance As European I find AC settings ridiculously low. It's summer, why should I carry a hoodie just for a bus ride? |
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| ▲ | arw0n 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| So air conditioning has become a larger topic in Europe, because our summers are getting so much hotter. Here in Germany it feels like we've cut short spring and fall, and summer an winter make most of the year. Air conditioning is very unusual in flats, schools and most public buildings. Hell, even some public transport is still lacking it. So I could imagine coming from that summer to the US and everything is a chill 290K might have motivated some people to tak to social media. But of course, social media is also just incredibly fake. There's this new brand of dickheads, the Dubai Dudes, and they seem to be a pretty loud and influential voice on social media, amplified by the royal houses down there and bond villain billionaires like Peter Thiel. |