This is an "argument" between relative elites. Both Europoors and USAian-poors don't spend time on the internet caring about each other. Most Europoors don't even speak English, and USAian-poors don't speak anything but English, so they literally couldn't communicate easily until recently, and they still haven't found a reason to.

That being said, this is largely European cope. Europeans are falling into the toilet. But the Brits they're arguing with are British elites who spend most of their time online pretending to be American Britishly (which amounts to being rude while using US slang), and the Americans they are arguing with are dimwitted xenophobes in debt up to their eyeballs and just pretending to have money. American elites (i.e. people with assets who only work as a hobby) are also doing very, very well, but they don't care about arguing with Europeans online. They think of Europe as fancy and fashion, and avoid most direct contact with Europeans (except expats and when they're on vacation) in order not to ruin that image.

But I have to repeat that Europeans are absolutely delusional. The future is looking terrible for them, and their elites feel like their only hope is war with Russia. They feel like they can regulate and judge things that the world is accomplishing around and without them. They've been coddled (by US arms and political meddling) into an unearned sense of superiority over a generation or two that is leading them into disaster. They have beautiful infrastructure and a big healthy, educated population, and they're losing simply because they let themselves be ruled by venal morons and will believe the dumbest neoliberal fairy stories.

Instead of propping them up to create the image of an international consensus, a failing US has just decided to treat Europe as a resource to be drained. Its only interest is to keep Europe alienated from China, who would also use them just as a resource to be drained. Somehow, Europe has even lost Russia's energy supplies to China and India, and cultivated such hate in Russia that this relationship might be harder to repair than the US-Russia relationship, which is insane. Somehow, the US has been able to fob off its ongoing (virtually hot) war against Russia onto Europe, and is successfully pushing them to pay for it (like Trump used to say about the border wall and Mexico.)

I have to agree that it reflects on American insecurity. Americans feel like they're living in a failing state heading into civil war and they're all going to die. Then they look at Europe, and they see a state born from war that failed to come together at all, and is somehow getting worse. It makes them feel better about themselves for a second, until they see the price of hamburgers and get depressed again.

> But I have to repeat that Europeans are absolutely delusional.

As a German, I find this very unfair. Most people in European countries are not delusional, but know very well how deep in the shit they and the countries in which they live are.

And, by the way: hardly any German person would tell how great things in Germany are. Many Germans are far too cynic to utter this kind of argument. These posts, in my experience, nearly always come from people from other countries.

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> Americans feel like they're living in a failing state heading into civil war and they're all going to die.

Except for "heading into civil war" and "we're all going to die", this is also how many Germans feel about their country.

In my feeling, the difference is rather that US-Americans are afraid to die because of this, while quite some Germans wouldn't really care if they all had to die in consideration of the mess everything is in.

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> Instead of propping them up to create the image of an international consensus, a failing US has just decided to treat Europe as a resource to be drained. Its only interest is to keep Europe alienated from China, who would also use them just as a resource to be drained.

This is exactly how a socially significant share (though very far from the majority) of people in Germany feel about the USA and China.

>[...] feel like their only hope is war with Russia

What? Russias threats to Europe is not the source of hope for anyone.

As an European, I'm glad we have lost Russian energy supplies. Only a fool wants to be dependent on a madman like Putin. Half a million Russian soldiers have died in Ukraine for nothing, and there you are still defending them, blaming the West for everything. How pathetic.

Russia is not a victim, it is the aggressor, as it has always been historically. Regardless of its other flaws, Europe is acting very rationally when it comes to Russia and Ukraine right now. We are in deep shit, but surrendering to Russia is not the answer, as it has never been. It would lead to even deeper shit. People who lived under Warsaw Pact generally do not hold very favorable views of Russia, nearly all of those countries joined NATO as soon as they gained independence.