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▲ nsoam 6 hours ago

How did they access users photos without consent? Did they run some exploit on Android to access the photo without showing the user the consent prompt? The article is really lacking in details.

▲crystaln 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Meta has a history of using simple features, like sending a photo to a contact in WhatsApp, to gain access to the user’s entire library for other purposes. This is illegal in Europe.

They use dark patterns and deception, and without knowing the details here I suspect Meta is guilty.

Meta’s response even stinks of these dark patterns, glossing over informed consent.

▲contubernio 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In Europe, unlike the US, consent has to be real. It's bad faith to offer ten pages of stuff no one reads and no one understands and interpret a click as consent. EU law generally requires a good faith offer and informed consent.

▲loeg an hour ago | parent [-]

Do you think the "allow photo access? yes/no" dialogue has ten pages of legalese? I promise, it does not. Really unclear what Meta should do differently.

▲microtonal 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

Just asking 'Allow photo access' is not enough under the GDPR, you have to ask consent for every different purpose that you are going to use the data for. The case is exactly about this:

Facebook requested access to users' photo galleries through a single app-wide authorisation. According to the Italian regulator, a preceding notice did not make clear that this would also allow Facebook to generate suggestions based on photos in their gallery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwn83gxemk35o

They should have explicitly asked separate consent to generate suggestions based on photos.

They know this. They just made the judgement that they could get away with an 'oopsie' or a fine that is just doing cost of business. These >1B fines are good, make them feel it, so that the next time they won't violate the GDPR.

▲kevin_thibedeau 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had an HMD Nokia Android phone where the camera app had Facebook integration. It reached out to their servers every time the app started despite my not ever having had a Facebook account. I wouldn't be surprised if they also used this backdoor to access photos via the camera app's permissions.

Suffice to say, Nokia is on my blacklist of companies to never patronize again.

▲klez 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This explains a bit better what the issue is: https://en.ilsole24ore.com/art/facebooks-data-protection-reg...

TL;DR: they didn't thoroughly explain the users what they were consenting to when giving the app access to the gallery.

▲mikelward 3 hours ago | parent [-]

WhatsApp has a similar issue. You can't share just one photo, you have to give it access to all photos.

▲Doohickey-d an hour ago | parent | next [-]

This isn't the case for me on Android anyway. You can turn off access for media & photos in settings, and then yes, it nags you to enable it, but there's still two ways to send photos:

* either share from an outside app, e.g. the gallery, choose "share", choose "whatsapp". This gives it access only to the photo you shared from the other app.

* and in Android's settings you can give Whatsapp access to a subset of photos, then it works normally on only that subset. Then you can always add more from outside that set, by pressing the paperclip icon when you write the message, there you see the "gallery option", then you see the limited subset of photos you gave access to, at the bottom right you have a folder picker icon which opens the system's gallery picker view (google photos in my case), where you can see all photos, and it can then access that photo too.

* if you chose no access to media at all, but if whatsapp has camera access, click on the paperclip icon in the message box, then, "camera", then the "gallery" icon, there you get a screen prompting for gallery access, but on the bottom right it has the same folder icon that gives access to the system photo picker, which again will only allow access to the photo you pick there.

The first two cases are pretty low-friction.

▲notimetorelax 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hm, at least on iPhone I used to be able to allow only some photos.

▲gib444 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> You can't share just one photo, you have to give it access to all photos

Works for me on an alternate Android OS without photos permission, but it's buggy (possibly on purpose) and often requires doing the sharing intent action twice.

WhatsApp only has "Network", "Notifications" and "Sensors" permission on my phone

▲bahmboo 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They didn't

▲skrebbel 5 hours ago | parent [-]

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▲lokar 4 hours ago | parent [-]

IME, many, if not most, meta employees (including me) are neutral to negative on the behavior of the company.

▲Ylpertnodi 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The fines should come out of your paychecks.

▲valicord 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That's literally what RSU is

▲7bit 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The investigation, launched in 2025, established that access to a user's camera roll is requested with a single permission for the entire app, which the authority said covers multiple features with different needs. The authorization request was preceded by a generic warning that didn't allow users to understand that they were authorizing picture and video suggestions, the authority said.

https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-hits-meta-with-e805m-f...

▲aprilthird2021 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That's kind of ridiculous though? Should there be multiple permissions for every different thing the app might want to do with your camera roll? Should a user constantly have to affirm access to the camera roll while using the app? Once should be enough!

▲ahtihn 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Should there be multiple permissions for every different thing the app might want to do with your camera roll?

Yes? Just because I want to share some pictures through an app doesn't mean I want it to go and do anything it wants with any picture on the device.

▲bathtub365 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If I share a single picture with friends I don’t want the app to then go through all the photos I’ve ever taken in my life.

▲microtonal 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or, you know, just don't aim to go through user's photos by default and just ask consent in the case a user enables/uses a feature that requires a photo to be sent to Facebook?

▲nsoam 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When all you have is a huge hole in your national budget, everything looks like a finable offence.

▲loeg an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Only for Facebook, lmao. Smaller apps without deep pockets aren't held to this standard.