| ▲ | SamInTheShell 6 hours ago |
| A decade ago, I would have said that's an individual person problem. Though these companies don't understand the word "No" and have already pushed the boundaries to the point that they're all in collusion with each other, resulting in broken privacy. At least US-side, nothing will change until people start holding their representatives accountable and start voting for people that will actually do something about it. This wont happen anytime soon, we have a much bigger problem we're dealing with for the next two years. |
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| ▲ | 9rx 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > nothing will change until people start holding their representatives accountable Which itself won't change. The term for holding representatives accountable is "lobbying", which the public believes is an abhorrent act! > and start voting for people that will actually do something about it. The thing is, who wins an election matters little. There are always exceptions, and we've definitely seen exceptions, but most representatives are there in good faith. However, they are not mind readers. They can't do anything aligned to the people until the people start lobbying to make it known what they want — but the people won't do that because it is seen as abhorrent behavior. > This wont happen anytime soon Especially when appears likely that those companies are responsible for making the people believe that it is unacceptable to lobby. They have the marketing budgets and know-how to keep pushing that narrative until the end of time. |
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| ▲ | SamInTheShell 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I could be wrong. Like when you're dumb enough to eliminate large swaths of the workforce, especially technologically skilled workers, you're risking these people using these same technologies to vote you out. People know how to game the algorithms presented to them, so it's not as simple as having ad-bucks anymore. | | | |
| ▲ | antonvs 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > The term for holding representatives accountable is "lobbying", which the public believes is an abhorrent act! That’s a misrepresentation. You see plenty of exhortations to “call your representative”, which technically could be called lobbying, but that’s not what people find problematic. The issue is professional lobbying, which involves people paid to lobby, and often involves money or other incentives for the representative being lobbied. This kind of lobbying is not actually focused on holding representatives accountable, but rather on changing their positions. As such, the above quote really doesn’t have much bearing on how much the public holds, or wants to hold, representatives accountable. | | |
| ▲ | win311fwg 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > That’s a misrepresentation. No matter how much you try to apologize it away the reality remains that the public abhors talking to their representatives. According to the 2016 US census on behaviour, only 10% of the public do. Which, conveniently, is exactly the same proportion of the population whose livelihood comes from ownership of a business. You're right to point out that business lobbying doesn't have the same stigma (or more likely when survival is on the line you stop caring about what other people think), but I think the earlier commenter already recognized that. |
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| ▲ | bradleyankrom 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "No" has been replaced with "Maybe Later". |
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| ▲ | hobo123 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Salami tactics. See also: "We decide on something, leave it lying around, and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back." - Jean Claude Juncker | |
| ▲ | Oarch 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Big Tech despises the idea of consent. | | |
| ▲ | classified 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | And what they despise even more, and don't give you the choice of if they can avoid it, is dissent. | | |
| ▲ | SamInTheShell 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I've been collecting flagged posts for months now. It's very interesting to see the upvote counts vs it's visibility through the main pages. |
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| ▲ | voakbasda 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That’s not just Big Tech. All corporations fight the rules that bind them. |
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