| ▲ | Animats 6 hours ago |
| Use this link for latest advisory: https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/ Current as of 1340 PDT: ATCSCC ADVZY 117 DCC 11/13/2026 ALL CENTERS EXTENDED FLIGHT PLAN DROP TIMES IMPLEMENTED
MESSAGE:
EVENT TIME: 13/2120 - 14/0500
CONSTRAINED FACILITIES: ZTL
DCC HAS IMPLEMENTED EXTENDED FLIGHT PLAN DROP TIMES TO 240 MINUTES
FOR ALL ENROUTE CENTERS DUE TO NATIONWIDE COMMS FAILURE.
EFFECTIVE TIME: 132121-140530
SIGNATURE: 26/11/13 21:21
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| ▲ | Animats 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Update: ATCSCC ADVZY 120 DCC 11/13/2026 NATIONWIDE GROUND STOP
MESSAGE:
EVENT TIME: 13/2245 - 14/0400
DESTINATION AIRPORT:ALL
FACILITIES INCLUDED: ALL
EXPECT UPDATE:0400Z
REASON: COMMUNICATIONS FAILURE
REMARKS: THE FAA COMMAND CENTER GROUND STOP REMAINS IN EFFECT. AS
ENROUTE FACILITIES RECOVER, FLIGHTS WILL BE ALLOWED TO DEPART
THROUGH COORDINATION WITH THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM COMMAND
CENTER.
EFFECTIVE TIME: 132246-140430
SIGNATURE: 26/11/13 22:46
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| ▲ | Animats 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As of 1345, "No ADVISORY Available for today." There's a query form for looking up old advisories, and it's not returning anything for the last 15 days. |
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| ▲ | ryanisnan 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What does this mean? "DCC HAS IMPLEMENTED EXTENDED FLIGHT PLAN DROP TIMES TO 240 MINUTES FOR ALL ENROUTE CENTERS DUE TO NATIONWIDE COMMS FAILURE." |
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| ▲ | geocrasher 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It means that flight plans (which include departure time) will stay in the system longer after the departure times are missed, so that IFR flight plans will not need to be re-filed. In other words, flight plans have a longer TTL. This will ease the pain of getting things moving again, assuming they fix it by the time the 4hr window passes. | |
| ▲ | Animats 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Normally, a flight plan must be filed with the FAA no later than 60 minutes before it's needed. That's been extended to 240 minutes. So the flight planning system is having problems. | | |
| ▲ | tjohns 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can definitely file a flight plan later than that. 30 minutes before departure is the recommended filing time (per AIM 5-1-6), but you can even file for an immediate departure. It's just that at less then 30 minutes additional delay is possible, depending on backend handling and human processing. But in most cases the strip will print within a minute or two of submitting the flight plan. But also, this is about when the flight plans expire out of the system if they're not activated for departure - so it's saying unused flight plans won't be deleted for 4 hours, so pilots won't have to refile for departure. |
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| ▲ | pandemic_region 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Why do all avionic systems communicate in caps? |
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| ▲ | tjohns 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Most of these systems started out as teletype printers, back in the day. The teletype systems only had an all-caps character set. Aviation is global, and we still need to interop with countries and airports that still use actual teletype. So the legacy protocols still remain, even though much of it is tunneled over IP links now. Also: The keyboards used in both airplanes and in ATC facilities are often special reduced-footprint keyboards without shift/caps keys. (They're also often ABC layout rather than QWERTY.) So there's that, too. | | |
| ▲ | shrx 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Does anyone still use actual teletype? | | |
| ▲ | tjohns 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Actual teletype machines? No. (Though flight strip printers used at ATC consoles are basically mini teletype printers.) However, AFTN (used for disseminating flight plans and weather between ATC facilities) still uses landline modems running TTY-originated protocols. In the US we've moved moved off AFTN in favor of AMHS/X.400, as have most countries - but my understanding is there's still some last holdouts that haven't fully switched over. |
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| ▲ | Symbiote 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So they can be heard over the engine noise. | |
| ▲ | upofadown 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Probably for the reason that the original monocase teletype machines did. Better absolute readability due to the larger characters. It tends to be very dense with little actual prose so it is better to reduce the possibility of mistaking one character for another. Also, everyone is used to reading the upper case so they would have to spend some time learning what common things look like in lower. |
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