  > The leaders of a nation won't start a war if they think they could lose it

This is objectively untrue.

▲ pigpop 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I'll need some examples where the aggressor nation's leaders have started a war by saying something like "My fellow countrymen, we're woefully ill equipped to fight this war and in all likelihood we're going to lose but I've decided that we're doing it anyway."

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dotancohen 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The Gazans on October 7th 2023.

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pigpop 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you want to add Afghanistan and September 11, 2001 to the list?

	▲	dotancohen an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Peace is not possible with cultures who view war as noble. Thus the very idea of winning a war - or preventing war - is almost impossible with such a culture. Considering such, the list will get long very quickly.