| ▲ | 0cf8612b2e1e 7 hours ago |
| I was talking to a guy who worked in logistics. He said “vanishing” was a common problem for high dollar items. He had recently had a shipment of Xboxes, the driver had specifically been told, “Do not stop, keep driving, make the assigned times”. Of course, the driver went off book, went somewhere else, and when he got back to the truck, magically a bunch of the order was missing. Guy was convinced the driver was on the take and would tip off someone about the juicy hauls. While probably harder to find a no-questions asked buyer, the price premium on GPUs is a lot higher than some consoles. |
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| ▲ | adriand 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It happens all the time. I work in logistics, it's unbelievable how much general criminality and fraud there is in this industry. The scenario you outlined is not all that common. There are much more sophisticated scams. What I see the most often are disclosures of load information and pickup numbers to bad actors (e.g. via social engineering). When you roll up to a facility with a truck, you need to provide information from the bill of lading, and the key piece of data is the pickup number, which is basically like a PIN for the shipment. If that gets into the wrong hands, then someone else can show up at that facility, pose as the carrier, and get loaded with the goods. It's quite low risk during the operation because there's no hijacking or anything else obviously criminal happening. People will literally load the thief's truck. |
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| ▲ | 0cf8612b2e1e 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That was exactly how that Canada gold heist happened. Thieves had arranged fake documents and the staff helped load $20 million in gold bars onto the truck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Pearson_International_... | |
| ▲ | nickalaso 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You'd think this would be pretty easy to resolve with manditory cameras inside/outside the trailer right? Can't be that expensive to set up considering overall Rig costs. | |
| ▲ | chneu 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Food fraud is also rampant. Stuff like olive oil is commonly fake or much lower quality than advertised. Its something like 20% of all food items are fraudulent in some way or another. | | |
| ▲ | ganoushoreilly 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I worked with an Insurer many years ago, produce and Nuts were one of their largest thefts. Easy to fence the goods when there isn't a serial number. | | |
| ▲ | mrec 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Canadian_Maple_Syrup_Hei... You can't really dust for maple syrup. | | |
| ▲ | gcoakes 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | What's with Canada and heists? That's the second wikipedia article about a Canadian heist on this page. Is it just because Canadians are posting it, or is there a disproportionate number of interesting heists in Canada? | | |
| ▲ | mistrial9 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have no direct knowledge of this topic, however highway robbery is older than civilization! After watching some documentary episode about trucking in New Guinea, and watching lines of trucks dutifully entering scales in California with literally dozens of cameras and connected tracking info databases.. I suspect that there is a clear spectrum around every single major truck route around the world (minus Japan perhaps). | | |
| ▲ | thaumasiotes 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > I have no direct knowledge of this topic, however highway robbery is older than civilization! I'd believe it's as old. It seems like it'd be difficult for it to be older, though - why is someone moving along a highway if there are no civilizations? |
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| ▲ | ReptileMan 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That is different type of scam though. My favorite is seafood - if you are buying already fileted and it is not salmon or tuna - there is solid chance you won't even get the same species. | |
| ▲ | intrasight 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah, it's nuts - literally https://www.marcfennell.com/nutjobs | |
| ▲ | LdBaringSwallow 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Wage theft, insurance fraud, watered down gas...whole lot of Murica is a empty hope/hype rhetoric to distract from how half assed everything is. Cut costs on effort to increase margins. | | |
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| ▲ | theturtletalks 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Look up the CoolKicks scandal. A sneaker reseller worth tens of millions was caught paying off people at Nike's warehouses to swap shipping labels and get items shipped to them instead. These were unreleased and rare shoes worth millions. It took the FBI months to catch them. | |
| ▲ | coef2 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If it happens with KitKat, I can imagine happening with high end GPUs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlyon/2026/03/30/chocolate-... | |
| ▲ | mtalantikite 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Around 2012 or so a client was building out a bunch of new database servers and had purchased fusion-io cards for them, which I think were going for something like $20k each. Well, the carrier never showed up on the day we were supposed to get them at the DC. I always assumed someone looked up the price, saw $100k+ worth of hardware that could be stuffed in a tote bag and decided to never show up to work again. | | |
| ▲ | zamadatix an hour ago | parent [-] | | Man, what a blast from the past, those fusion io cards felt like alien technology back when I was just excited to have a non-HDD boot drive. Hell, I bet they'd still be decent drives in a current setup (large number of PCIe lanes wasted for an ancient revision aside). |
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| ▲ | pdpi 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > While probably harder to find a no-questions asked buyer, the price premium on GPUs is a lot higher than some consoles. I'd go further than that. A no-questions-asked buyer for a console merely suspects there's shenanigans afoot, and will expect a considerable discount off the sticker price. A no-questions-asked buyer for server GPUs almost certainly knows for a fact there's shenanigans afoot, but is likely to pay a premium over the sticker price anyway. |
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| ▲ | charcircuit 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Another reason why they are cheap is because Xbox will ban the consoles once they know they were stolen. GPUs on the other hand don't have a remote kill switch after being stolen. | | |
| ▲ | summarity 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Don't give them ideas | | |
| ▲ | ffsm8 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Given current market tends, if that becomes more frequent the likelihood of consumers actually getting GPUs goes up, as these will at least end up on various markets | | |
| ▲ | dghlsakjg 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Are data center “gpu”s actually useful for consumers? | |
| ▲ | Terr_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I wouldn't mind "digital locks" so much if the owners actually got the keys to the things they bought. |
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| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This type of thing is where a lot of prescription drugs that hit the black market come from. The manufacturers of drugs are highly regulated. The prescribers of drugs are highly regulated. The disbursers of prescription drugs are highly regulated. The shippers; not so much. There's a good reason the mob likes logistics companies. |
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| ▲ | aomix 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I worked at one of these places in college. Everybody had layers and layers of processes to make sure the shipment of controlled substances weren't tampered with. Because like you said the shipping companies were mostly immune to consequences from that. They'd wash their hands of the bad actors and move on. But it was seen was our fault if it happened and we didn't find it. Because of course we could be in on it and our not finding it could be part of the ploy! In one a Fedex driver and conspirators would repackage a large shipment of painkillers. They'd take a single bottle from the a few boxes on each pallet and seal them back up in such a way that was very hard to spot. Another time they'd take like 10% of the pills out of a bunch of bottles. Many times the driver would get lunch and the truck would be stolen. Like once a year. | |
| ▲ | wmf 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I used to think this until I read that "supplements" contain real sildenafil. | | |
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| ▲ | furytrader 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My wife worked for a woman's health and beauty company that sold a lot of perfume and cologne, and their trucks would get ripped off all the time. |
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| ▲ | dylan604 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | was there a general region where this happened more frequently that doesn't look like a heat map of the general population? I'm thinking specifically about east coast crime family tropes here |
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| ▲ | skybrian 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wouldn't at least some shipping companies have the technology to track their trucks pretty closely nowadays? |
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| ▲ | bombcar 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | They do. But the LTL trucks are easy to load and unload. So you have tracking devices in the cab, the trailer, the pallets, and the boxes, and things STILL disappear. |
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| ▲ | KallDrexx 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Are there not commercial equivalent of AirTags that can be hidden into pallets to track things? |
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| ▲ | overfeed 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Guy was convinced the driver was on the take and would tip off someone about the juicy hauls. Most logistics companies operate on shoestring IT budgets, and yet their software systems are juicy targets for organized crime, just like real estate companies. |
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| ▲ | 15155 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This was a central plot point in The Fast and the Furious (2001) |
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| ▲ | rdtsc 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That was too dramatic. Crossbows, etc. If anything the driver is probably cut in and involved. Thieves randomly picking out the truck with $11M worth of GPUs just seems implausible (or trucks just get robbed left at right all the time, the yeah, there is a chance one time they’ll hit high value cargo). | |
| ▲ | dylan604 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I much prefer the train heist from Breaking Bad | |
| ▲ | ptek 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah I remember that, Isn't it like a meme now with instead of DVD players at the back of the truck, they had Raspberry PIs during COVID and now RAM and GPUS? |
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| ▲ | rdtsc 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yeah, I would guess the driver is one who tips them off. Goes to some plausible location, gets out and takes a long enough lunch or bathroom break and then bam! “Omg someone stole this while I wasn’t looking”. |
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| ▲ | DelightOne 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why aren't they putting cameras on every inch of the truck and immediately call law enforcement? Or are senders cheaping out on shipping | | |
| ▲ | 0cf8612b2e1e 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The ideal amount of fraud is greater than zero. Putting a bunch of technical compliance controls in place to stop the one-percent of bad actors is going to increase friction for everyone else. | | |
| ▲ | hetman 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | What form does this friction take? | | |
| ▲ | rafale 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It takes money to monitor and maintain those systems which in turn translate to higher shipping costs that may very well cost more than the theft you want to stop. |
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| ▲ | rdtsc 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They will probably re-evaluate after this. Another thing is to send additional security with a trailing car. Hopefully assigned at random so it can't be someone connected with the driver. I know someone was shipping shelled walnuts and they did that as a semi full of those things can be in the many hundreds of thousands of dollars/euros in value. |
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| ▲ | manquer 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > probably harder to find a no-questions asked buyer Is it ? with all the news this week about dummy servers and other tricks to bypass export controls, it seems there would be many no questions asked buyers abroad. |
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| ▲ | pak9rabid 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Heh, a play straight out of the movie Goodfellas |
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| ▲ | ndesaulniers 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Am reminded of the premise of the first The Fast & Furious movie. |
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| ▲ | throwaway27448 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can xboxes still play games without connecting to the internet? |
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| ▲ | gosub100 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I knew a UPS logistics guy, who told me (20 years ago) that an entire 30+ foot UPS trailer full of brand new laptops simply disappeared from a warehouse. |