Everything feels so cumbersome. I click on a link in some app which takes me to their login which takes me to MSFT login which takes me to the 2FA provider which asks me for a passkey which takes me back to MSFT which asks me whether to remember which takes me back to my app which forgot the redirect on the way which takes me back to the home view from which I navigate back to where I wanted to go where I can finally see what I wanted to see. Surely there must be a better way.

Yes, web apps should support passkeys directly and have a "log in with your passkey" button if there's a cookie indicating that you previously logged in with one. Also, don't screw up the UI by then sending you an email or text message with a confirmation code.

(If it's a browser that you haven't used before, perhaps be a little more paranoid.)

Yeah. The other day I registered into something using my institutional login (with 2FA). And then i have to activate 2FA in the relying party as well. So everytime i login there i need 2 2FAs.

Most of my current company runs on Teams, which is such a massive self-inflicted gunshot wound. It must cost billions in lost productivity across the globe, just dealing with how terrible it is.

A few examples that happen pretty much every day:

1) The teams interface takes upwards of 60 seconds to load, from the moment I've gone through the auth process and the Teams logo pops up, from when the UI actually renders the sidebars and the first chat window.

2) It frequently fails to load new messages after resuming an existing session for a few minutes. It shows everything up to date, you can navigate between chats, but no new messages or unread message counts update. Then after s a few minutes, it suddenly works, but it's impossible to tell if it's working and you don't actually have any messages or if it's in this limbo state.

3) When you need to reauth, the app seems to work, again showing all the previous messages, but there's this tiny toast at the top saying that you need to log out.

4) The log out button doesn't actually work. On Chrome, I've had to use devtools to clear my cookies & sessions for it to get into a valid state where it would actually let me sign in again. The Mac app just goes unresponsive and needs to be forced to quit.

I didn't feel the tiniest bit bad for all the companies going down thanks to MS this week. Alarms have been blaring for years and nobody cares.

I really hate this bullshit "security". Why on earth do I have to log in every single day? If anything, it gives an attacker more chances to either steal my password, or makes me more likely to be phished because logging in is so automatic now.

It has negative security. Log me in for a fucking month, stop wasting a minute of my time every day!

I don't remember the last time I had a workday that didn't involve logging into something that I definitely logged into not very long ago, that I use every single day, and it's so, so, so fucking tedious.

And it doesn't escape my notice that all the fucking things I have to log into over and over and over are using Microsoft auth. Which granted, I think every office worker would notice that just from the ubiquity of their software, but still. And, on top of it, Microsoft's login flows are remarkably, consistently clunky. The forms jump all over the place and it has to refresh the page like 5 times as it's processing your credentials, and lord help you if Outlook needed you to sign in and silently opened that stupid auth window, because if you go through the entire thing, odds are great that you'll get a "security token expired, please do it again" message at the end. Like I dunno personally I wouldn't get a security token until the user has actually interacted in some way with the stupid form but what do I know I've only been making software for like 13 fucking years.

Oh yeah, bonus points: I use the passkey thing for my MS Auth app on my phone, and every single goddamned time I sign in, it asks me if I want to.... wait for it... create a passkey.

Edit: Oh oh and, for the above? If you're working through your morning coffee and accidentally click OK instead of cancel, it'll sit there spinning forever, not sign in correctly, and then you get to do ALL THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN.

Just, truly the biggest circus with the most clowns over there.

Sure there is—local apps.