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▲ Live-migration support in FreeBSD and bhyve coming(gyptazy.com)
63 points by JohnDohnBohn 5 hours ago | 15 comments
▲als0 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Also related is Propolis from Oxide who worked on live migration with Bhyve https://github.com/oxidecomputer/propolis

▲e12e an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anyone heard anything from dragonflyBSD lately? This sounds like something that might go well with HammerFS?

▲adrian_b an hour ago | parent [-]

I am using FreeBSD, not DragonflyBSD, but I happen to be on a DragonflyBSD developer mailing list, which is normally low traffic, except that I have noticed recently a lot of messages with various patches, mentioning both bug fixes and newly implemented features.

So the project is alive and it seems more active than previously.

▲JohnDohnBohn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Looks like this could really become a game changer for the FreeBSD folks using bhyve. The author often complained about this missing feature and he was also contributing to the Sylve project. Looks like he's crafting something.

▲hnlmorg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What’s FreeBSDs story like for Docker these days?

I love FreeBSD. But I reluctantly had to migrate one of my home servers to Ubuntu Server because I needed Docker support as well as ZFS. Ubuntu Server, compared to FreeBSD, is a complete clusterfuck of an OS. And I regret the effort I spent migrating.

▲warpflyght an hour ago | parent | next [-]

There's experimental support for Podman and OCI containers on FreeBSD 14.3 and later, with some additional system configuration required [0], [1]. I've been playing with it off and on with FreeBSD 15.0 and 15.1, but I'm not using it for anything I depend on.

[0]: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/containers/

[1]: https://podman.io/docs/installation#installing-on-freebsd

▲hnlmorg 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nice. I’ll have a read of that later. Thank you

▲soupbowl 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is also this which was not mentioned by other commenters.

https://daemonless.io/

▲hnlmorg 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

Looks interesting. Thanks for sharing.

▲johng 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I used to use Ubuntu a lot about 7 years ago. I saw the writing on the wall. Once they started forcing snap down people’s throats, especially. I’ve been on Debian ever since and have been very happy. I also have run many other OS’s and I feel that Debian is still a good blend of polished and still friendly to the hacker.

▲hnlmorg an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah Debian is nice. But at the time of switching, only Ubuntu offered ZFS precompiled in their official repos.

I did, for a period, run some other distro with DKMS but that was a massive pain to keep up-to-date due to ZoL’s piss poor documentation and messy build tools.

This was quite a few years ago though. Long before even FreeBSD synced with ZoL for OpenZFS. So the problems I encountered have likely matured tenfold since.

But if I’m going to the hassle of installing a new OS then I might as well install FreeBSD again because I just prefer it to Linux (nothing against Linux in general, my laptops and PCs all run Arch and I’ve made a career from supporting a variety Linux platforms)

▲TacticalCoder an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> What’s FreeBSDs story like for Docker these days?

My current setup for Docker (Podman really in my case):

    Proxmox -> Linux VMs -> Podman containers inside Linux VMs
My plan:

    FreeBSD's bhyve hypervisor -> Linux VMs -> Podman containers inside Linux VMs
So basically just ditching Proxmox for FreeBSD/bhyve. Then at long last I'll be, again, systemd-free.
▲hnlmorg 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

I did consider the bhyve approach myself, before I made the switch. But it was still pretty experimental at the time (iirc) and wanted something reliable otherwise I’d have a wife and two kids moaning at me that their stuff isn’t working haha!

But maybe you’re right that it’s worth reconsidering now.

▲jbird99 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nice! Can we have high availability / clustering for jails next?

▲bashhq_r 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

so bhyve getting live migration finally means sylve might actually be usable for production clusters, been waiting on this.