Any talks about physical sovereignty? Why do EU let its auto industry struggle against Chinese EVs? What about electronic products? Why can Europe wean off foreign energy such as from US or Middle East or Russia?

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swiftcoder a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Why do EU let its auto industry struggle against Chinese EVs? What about electronic products? Why can Europe wean off foreign energy such as from US or Middle East or Russia?

Your two goals are fundamentally at odds with each other: cheap Chinese solar panels and EVs are the only realistic route to energy independence.

That many of the EU car manufacturers bet hard against the EV transition, is pretty much a bed of their own making.

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InsidiousWombat a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

EU car industry languished in safety too long, focusing on how to bump the price of cars up and up while having them less and less reliable.

It can't survive honest competition, let alone one that also benefits from lower costs

	▲	moi2388 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You are saying the Chinese EVs which came into being by corporate espionage and which are government subsidised to exactly destroy EU car production is honest competition?

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preisschild a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why should people be forced to only choose from a limited amount of suppliers?

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eternauta3k a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why should China buy our chips / other 1000 exports if we refuse to buy their cars?

	▲	oblio a day ago \| parent [-]
		I have bad news for you, China doesn't import much these days, except for raw resources.

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spwa4 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> Any talks about physical sovereignty?

You mean about the 3.5 wars Europe is directly involved in? Up from 2 three years ago.

Ukraine - Russia

Russia - Black Sea EU member states (esp. Bulgaria, but also Greece)

Turkey - Greece

Russia - Georgia (kind of)

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cicko 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That way you can list pretty much any combination of countries around the world.

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MonkeyClub 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Turkey - Greece

How’s that a war?

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spwa4 11 hours ago | parent [-]

See Cyprus. Plus there was a coast guard confrontation this year with shots fired.

	▲	MonkeyClub 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That’s a bit far from a hot war like Ukraine or Iran. Cyprus’ ongoing occupation since the 1974 invasion is, of course, another thing (habitually not raised in either the UN or the EU), though Cyprus is a sovereign state with Greece as only an inert guarantor nation.