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| ▲ | cowlevel 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | The Cybertruck was a success if it made a profit overall. So was Copilot. The point is to make money, not to make good products. | | |
| ▲ | j16sdiz 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This mindset is what makes this society so depressing | | |
| ▲ | cowlevel 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | We need to rewire ourselves to think about things that are profitable and useful. People prefer something that's expensive and useful over something that's just expensive. For some reason though it's only the people who are making useless things who are making anything at all. Nobody else tapped into the Cybertruck market segment at all. | | |
| ▲ | eddythompson80 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm not really sure I'm understand what you're trying to say tbh. Though tangentially what even is the Cybertruck market segment to begin with? On profitable products though; sure as a general concept, but the rate of return, opportunity cost and market competition factor into the profitability equation too. You could go waste your time building a desktop app for a chatgpt clone and make some "profit" in the same time your competitor threw similar resources at making a claude code and that makes 100x your profit. That would mean you actually lost despite the profit. The opportunity cost isn't only in building the wrong thing, but also in the human resources you allocated to the task that deprived other areas. I see no world where the 6 dozen copilots we got from Microsoft have any good ROI beyond diluting a brand and making them more of a laughing stock. | |
| ▲ | danaris 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hell no. We need to rewire ourselves to think about things that are beneficial to society as a whole. Not "profitable." Profit just means more money going from the many to the few. That's what's gotten us into this awful situation. | | |
| ▲ | cowlevel 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | What good is thinking about the most beneficial things to society if you and your faction will never have the power to implement them or even to persuade those who do have that power? | | |
| ▲ | danaris 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, one of the things that I'm very, very certain is beneficial to society as a whole is getting the fascists and those who think that profit should be the first, last, and only concern out of power now and forever. So fortunately, there's not really an incompatibility there. |
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| ▲ | pwthornton 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If the Cybertruck were making good money it wouldn't be getting canceled a few years into its run on the market. No car company does that to successful products. |
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