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▲ disgruntledphd2 18 hours ago

> Luckily most European politicians are corrupt and can easily be bought to prevent them from ditching Azure and Windows.

They're not corrupt (in a lot of cases), mostly just ignorant. Like, they don't understand the tech, and microsoft is safe, they're already using it so handing over large swathes of their infra to them seems reasonable.

MS have wonderful sales people, and this is why they do well with governments and large enterprises.

There's also a co-ordination problem, in that all of your counterparties (like your citizens, for instance) are familiar with MS and therefore it costs a bunch locally to move, for little short-term reward.

This is actually a place where (good) regulation could derisk a lot of these changes, but you'd need a committed group of politicians who can convince the civil servants to keep at it. It'll happen, but slowly and in starts over the next 5-15 years.

▲hn_submit 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Where does corruption start and lobbying begin? American cloud providers are hosting more than $340 billion worth of European workloads on their infrastructure, including email, videoconferencing, office documents and storage.

If they transfer this to sovereign providers it would cost Big Tech serious money. So they're quietly lobbying to slow down the speed at which European nations are moving away from them.

▲disgruntledphd2 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> If they transfer this to sovereign providers it would cost Big Tech serious money. So they're quietly lobbying to slow down the speed at which European nations are moving away from them.

Yeah, this is definitely really important to them (not important enough for them to comply with the laws, but whatevs).

▲edstarch 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I literally had a person from IT tell me “Firefox is open source so it’s not secure, that’s why we have to use Edge” the other day. They are beyond hopeless.

▲cowlevel 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And Microsoft is being smart by cultivating this worldview. Open source has no such thing. In general, the company with the best marketing can be expected to win the market. Product quality plays only a minor role.

Microsoft also sells contracts to companies and open source does not. If "open source" does, it's someone like Red Hat who has to take on all the legal responsibility themselves, just like Microsoft does, and that makes the product as expensive as Microsoft's, only it's not subsidized by mass surveillance so it's even more expensive.

▲dijksterhuis 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

i had a very similar experience with a co-founder and ceo.

it took half an hour to even somewhat convince them that academic/postgrad student open source projects with one commit four years ago are not the same thing as linux/ubuntu/docker/etc.

sibling makes a good point tho. what they were probably thinking was “we want to be able to blame someone who is not us if it goes wrong at some point”. that’s 90% of the microslop business pitch right there.

open source, it’s on you. microslop, it’s on them.