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▲ zaptheimpaler a day ago

NVIDIA is the crown jewel of the US at this point, the company powering all of AI, which has global geopolitical implications. Jensen is by all accounts the visionary and solid leader of the company. Weakening it because of an affair is batshit fucking crazy.

I agree its morally wrong, but that's really a personal issue for the family, it's not a crime. Sleeping with some employees is barely a problem IMO. And worst of all, when I look at the amount of corruption and immorality amonst say Musk, Zuckerberg, the Trump White House going after Jensen is crazy. Jensen is the billionaire who's happy to pay all his taxes and not interfere with politics or elections.

And besides all that, it seems the Trump admin KNEW about Alice Huang and Jensen's relationship for a year, Lutnick also knew, the intelligence agencies knew. Why is Jensen the only one going down for this? He is getting crucified because he's less Machiavellian than all the rest.

Because this isn't a moral issue, its a dirty political fight to entrench power within OpenAI & Anthropic. Without the Chinese companies getting chips, we would not have Deepseek or Kimi or any frontier-level open weight models. And if these guys succeed, we will all be locked into corporate paid models that spy on you and censor you for a long time.

People need to look at the bigger picture, this is about killing open-weight models and that may be good for a few US cos but it is terrible for the world.

▲nixon_why69 a day ago | parent [-]

Also, these women are all age-appropriate and none were minors. One would think that's the world's lowest bar and not even worth mentioning, but, well..

▲zaptheimpaler a day ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah it’s ridiculous the absolute vile things the people on top of the government have been doing for years now - deaths of innocent citizens by ICE, deaths in Ukraine, rape and minor abuse, hundreds of millions in grift, preventable disease outbreaks due to anti-vax propaganda and the list goes on..

but everyone is outraged about some affairs - it’s a staged planned media operation. And most of the tech industry seems to tune out anything about politics because its “low brow” so they’re often clueless to the depths of depravity of this admin, but theyre jumping onboard the Jensen hate train.

▲breuleux a day ago | parent | next [-]

Sorry, I don't follow. You think the people who are "outraged" by the affairs aren't also outraged by what the US admin is doing? I think most critics want all rich and powerful people to be accountable for their actions when they mess up, and they take the scalps they can get.

▲zaptheimpaler 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I believe the average person is going to be worse off without Jensen sending chips to China because that will be the end of frontier level open weight models. Jensen was making a huge push towards developing their own open weight models too, NVIDIA in general was aligned to that mission.

Right now I can run DS or Kimi locally or find providers who run them E2EE and have actual faith in privacy. Meanwhile, one of Notions data processors got hacked and it turns out their “zero data retention” policy was a complete lie. That’s par for the course in corporate America.

Our options after this are going to be spyware, censored models from a duopoly. We are fucked into a surveillance state without open weights. China’s training and releasing open weight models was one of the greatest gifts to the world whatever you think their motivations were. So this isn’t people taking what they can get, this is people cheering for their own demise because they’re so hungry to take down any elite at all.

▲breuleux 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Okay, first off, the average person is not going to run local models. They will use whatever is best or cheapest, like they always do, privacy be damned, and small open weight providers are likely to be even worse on that count than the big ones (what do they have to lose?) If they do run local models, the company most likely to deliver these chips is Apple, not Nvidia.

Second, there's no reason the new CEO wouldn't keep pushing towards open weights if that's good for the company, and I believe it is. It's a form of hedging against the big labs and creating a sustainable demand outside of them.

Third, if China wants Nvidia GPUs, don't worry, they'll get them. While they need them. They're certainly working very hard to reproduce the entire vertical on their turf and I'm fairly confident they'll get close enough within a few years. They're not hinging their whole strategy on Jensen, they're not idiots.

Nothing's going to really change. It's fine. Well, as fine as everything usually is.

▲calf a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's an out of proportion distraction and shows how the vast majority of normal people are ideologically beholden to technofeudalist ideas of social relations. It's really the perfect ragebait issue.

▲tclancy a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Hang on, do you believe this is a logical argument?

▲fer a day ago | parent | prev [-]

This whole thing makes it look like his mistake was not going to Epstein's Island and participate in a hypothetical Mutually Assured Incrimination pact.