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| ▲ | guelo a day ago | parent | next [-] | | It's only available on the $100 plan not the $20 plan. | | |
| ▲ | judge2020 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Google’s segmentation here is keeping them from using their existing account dominance to eat away at OpenAI and Anthropic personal subscriptions, tbh. Adopt a lower usage limit for Carbon on the $20 plan and it’s suddenly insane value. | | |
| ▲ | rastapanda 19 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Given you get YouTube premium, file/photo storage, and $10 a month back in GCP credit which you can use on more tokens (including carbon). It already feels like great value to me, that said how much you get out of it will depend how deep you're in Google's ecosystem. | | |
| ▲ | rafaelmn 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | YouTube Premium is only personal so it's useless for me I'm already paying for family plan, and what do I need 20TB of cloud storage for to update to 100$ plan - basically it's a useless bundle for me not a value proposition beyond the 20$ with their usage limits I saw. | | |
| ▲ | mark_l_watson 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Same for me. I find myself using Google’s $20/month plan, plus running really good local models with occasional use of Deepseek Harness with their flash model, occasionally a $6/month Alibaba subscription for their strong qwen-3.8-max model, and about every third month getting a Anthropic subscription if I need more access to Opus. This is a lot of purchasing complexity for an old retired guy like myself! I wish Google had finer grained $30/month and $40/month subs: then I would probably just make my life easier by only using local models and Google (their sub also provides some Opus, but the Anthropic subscription is better if all you care about is Opus or Fable.) |
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| ▲ | judge2020 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Unfortunately it's YouTube Premium Lite which doesn't include YouTube Music :/ | |
| ▲ | jack_pp 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What subscription are you talking about and is this US only? My Google one sub doesn't say anything about YouTube premium and gcp | | |
| ▲ | jack_pp 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | nevermind, found em but apparently it's youtube premium "lite" | | |
| ▲ | saturdaysaint 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | I find Lite to be perfect. It only adds ads to copyrighted music videos and doesn’t include YouTube Music, otherwise it’s the same as YouTube Premium. For $100/yr with lots of cloud storage and Gemini access, it’s one of the best value subscriptions out there in my book. |
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| ▲ | p_l 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | AFAIK the real issue, and also driving the pricing structure for API and the "50% discount on new model" thing, is frankly capacity of the TPUs they have. Not enough TPUs, not helped by renting some of them to Claude (lots of enterprise users there, so at least it pays to GCP, eh?) and now OpenAI |
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| ▲ | serioussecurity 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Their audience is enterprise customers, not consumers. | |
| ▲ | welferkj 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | $20 plans are basically paid demos as of now. You are barely a step above the free ad marks. | | |
| ▲ | toyg an hour ago | parent [-] | | They are perfectly fine for hobby projects. My only gripe is that it feels like they get slower and slower with time. |
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| ▲ | satvikpendem a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Now what about their other Carbon the language? | | | |
| ▲ | akoboldfrying a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thanks, but that page crashes my Android phone browser. Separately, I'm surprised not to see any HN link for this (that made it to the front page) in the past few days. |
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