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▲ bluegatty a day ago

I think his unfair, and much of it not true.

Jensen is actually extremely well respected by his staff and has the highest staff approvals in almost all of tech.

I'm certain that his personal foibles won't engender him any love, but it's not unheard of.

Elon Musk has had sexual relations with at least 4 staffers, children with one - while he was having children with his wife.

Where's the scandal?

"he got honeypotted by a foreign government and managed "

Where is the evidence of this? Give me one specific allegation?

His mistress was passing information to the government, ok, as will many nationals that have met with him, and as US nationals often do as well.

Elon is in direct contact with Putin several times a year since 2022 - and there's no good reason for that.

Consider putting all of that in context vis-a-vis much of the rest of corporate America and consider the rest of his contributions.

Obviously it's fair to bring all of this up, but it's intensely hypocritical for the most part.

▲internet2000 a day ago | parent | next [-]

I'm puzzled that so many Huang defenders point at Musk.

The bar shouldn't be Musk!!

▲bluegatty a day ago | parent [-]

How are you puzzled that people point out the radical hypocrisy?

Musk is 'below the bar'.

Jensen is 'just at the bar' for this maybe slightly above.

I'm not condoning, I'm contextualizing.

He didn't do anything wrong or illegal (that we know of), other than breach of trust with his wife.

This media around this is crazy and slanderous.

All of the press is screaming about 'affair with spy and possibly secrets' , which is very unfair.

She's not a 'spy' - she's a hustler looking to make money by reselling GPUs, and she's 'talking to the Chinese government' as literally they are all compelled to do.

Are Jensen and Elon 'spies' because they talk to the State Dept. and US Gov all the time about goings on in China?

In an ideal world - we would have to contend with Jensen's actions, but I'm doubtful he'd be nerfed for personal foibles, which are not material or public concern.

Assuming that he did not hand over key secrets or information, which I highly doubt and which there are no specific allegations, this is a media / meme wave, completely out of context.

The only saving grace in this, is that the Nvidia board may be friendly to him, in which case, maybe they 'know something' that is not public, and this is the 'nice way out' but even then I'm doubtful.

▲jnaina a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Let’s be honest here. Musk gets latitude because he’s white. A non-white CEO behaving the same way wouldn’t get the same benefit of the doubt, however accomplished or respected they are.

Nobody says it openly, but anyone who has operated in Western corporate circles knows it.

▲bluegatty 19 hours ago | parent [-]

That's true but only slightly true - and the evidence is that rappers can get away with absolutely horrific behaviour that other musicians cannot 'because the culture'. Kaney just set records for his concerts after releasing 'Hail Hitler' album for gosh sakes.

Elon has normalized his bad behaviour and he controls the board - there's no 'smoke that can make a fire' around him as long as the companies are doing ok. He also aggressively threatens people and very few will speak out against him.

There might be a tinge of racism with the 'honey pot' stuff, and 'chinese spy' has hints of orientalism as well. The headlines are really leaning in to the 'Asian Sex Spy' stuff which is terrible. And I've see posts with rich guys and their Asian wives - not nice.

Fair point, but I don't think it's only partially the case.

▲WillPostForFood a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Give me one specific allegation

https://archive.ph/c4kmF

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Next to the Nvidia chief was a woman named Huang Le, or Alice Huang, an executive of a Singapore-based data center company called Megaspeed, which was poised to buy $2 billion of Nvidia A.I. technology over the next year. Though Ms. Huang and Megaspeed are little-known players in the A.I. industry, their association with Nvidia and its chief executive has recently become a preoccupation in Washington.

Commerce Department officials have been investigating whether Megaspeed, which has close ties to Chinese tech firms, is helping companies in China sidestep American export restrictions, according to more than a half dozen current and former officials and other people familiar with the companies, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss an examination that is not public.

The inquiry, which is active, calls into question how closely Nvidia is tracking where its A.I. chips end up and highlights the possibility of American export laws easily being sidestepped. Megaspeed is also facing scrutiny from Singaporean police, who told The New York Times in a statement that they are investigating the company for breaching local laws, without elaborating further.

▲bluegatty a day ago | parent [-]

There are no allegations against Nvidia there.

It's absurd to suggest that Nvidia would need to secretly ship a handful of chips to some sketchy actor when Nvidia chips have a a mile a line long for sales.

Jensen can sell his inventory 10x over. You have to have buying power just to get a hold of them.

Anything is possible but it would be extra stupid for one of the smartest people in the world to risk everything for literally no reason at all.

▲tsimionescu 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It's absurd to suggest that Nvidia would need to secretly ship a handful of chips to some sketchy actor when Nvidia chips have a a mile a line long for sales.

Consider the opposite possibility - that they were doing this and this this might prove that the "mile long line" for sales is in fact not as long as it looks from the outside.

▲scrtm a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>Anything is possible but it would be extra stupid for one of the smartest people in the world to risk everything for literally no reason at all.

a story as old as time

▲bluegatty a day ago | parent [-]

Fair enough - but there are zero specific allegations against him in terms of national security.

His mistress was talking to the Chines government - literally as all people over there are compelled to do - and - was hustling Nvidia chips - as thousands of people are doing.

The idea that Nvidia would knowingly help people do something bad would require some material evidence before it could be a headline.