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▲ wasabi991011 a day ago

According to Artificial Analysis, it's much cheaper per task than 3.8 flash, 3$ for H xhigh vs 6-7$ for 3.8 medium-high. I don't understand how though, since AA says it has more output tokens per task.

▲declanjackson a day ago | parent [-]

Hi there - AA employee here. This is due to 3.8 Flash having a much lower cache hit rate compared to Gemini 4 Hydrogen

▲gruez a day ago | parent | next [-]

Why would cache rates differ? Does hydrogen have a longer cache period?

▲nightshift1 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

sorry if this is a dumb question, but how is this possible? what can cause the cache hit rate to change just by changing the model?

▲declanjackson a day ago | parent | next [-]

This is based on what we measure from the API - we see different endpoints depending on how they are served can have different cache hit rates (cache hit rate is defined as the % of cacheable tokens that actually come back as cache hits)

▲scott_weber 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

One possibility (just a guess): new arch produces a more compact cache, it becomes cost effective to hold more cache for longer.