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▲ jonplackett a day ago

And I thought OpenAI’s name scheme was confusing.

▲winstonp a day ago | parent | next [-]

I don't understand which model is supposed to be better. I think Carbon is the big model and Hydrogen the Flash equivalent? Only because of a Twitter leak though. Like I have no earthly idea based on the naming.

▲JacobAsmuth a day ago | parent | next [-]

Carbon = bigger, Hydrogen = smaller.

Ignore all other models.

▲arbot360 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Argon is noble gas so it doesn't interact with any other models.

▲refactor_master a day ago | parent [-]

Seems weird to pick a name that is so much a noble gas, and then not have the other names follow it. Is that because Nitrogen doesn't have parameters enough? Or Neon being a weird model name if it came to that? And why not Helium, instead of Hydrogen? Is that supposed to indicate rock-bottom pricing? What about the cheap cheap 3.1-flash-lite for pipelines then? Will they phase it out, and replace it with Hydrogen as the new lower price range? None of it makes sense!

▲jonplackett 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But hydrogen makes fusion. Carbon is soot. Hydrogen is more explosive too. About be better.

And argon? Are we going on atomic number or is it the noblest and thus cleverest, or is it the most chilled out model that doesn’t over react

From the company that brought us Android ice cream sandwich though, I guess these are their clearest names yet!

▲ainch a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess carbon has a higher atomic number than hydrogen? It's definitely the least intuitive of all the naming schemes...

▲cuvinny a day ago | parent | next [-]

Which doesn't explain Argon which is the same cost as Carbon while being worse.

▲ainch a day ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah I mean it's baffling to me too. I just want them to release a Sol/Opus-tier model so I can do useful stuff with ramming into the usage limits.

▲tonyhart7 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

because Carbon is fine tuned version

they are same base model

▲arbot360 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

It's sorted by electronegativity.

▲Jtarii a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I thought it was just sorted alphabetically so Argon < Carbon < Hydrogen.

▲stopsayingsorry a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is nothing confusing about it if you're at least a little bit educated. If anything, they are the least confusing, Ant drops the ball at opus->fable. For OpenAI, it's:

Luna, means "moon", smallest.

Terra, means "earth", bigger than the moon.

Sol, means "sun", the biggest object in the solar system.

Astra, plural of the word "astrum" which means "star".

Anyone who gets confused should be embarrassed.

▲Yizahi a day ago | parent | next [-]

All of those are deducible, sure. The problem is that the pattern works only when they are all listed together. Person sees the list and can logically infer where they belong. But when I see the single model name detached from it's siblings, like "OAI releases new Terra 7.7" headline, for quite a long time I had zero idea where it belongs just from my memory. Was that a big model, a small model, a medium model - no idea. Now after a few HN topics I do remember the lineup and can place the new announce where it belongs.

▲jonplackett 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Also I initially thought it was about distance into space. So terra was first, then Luna.

▲pests a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why give an OpenAI answer when the confusion is about Gemini model names? What does Luna Terra or Sol have to do with Argon, Carbon, or Hydrogen?

▲stopsayingsorry a day ago | parent [-]

Because "And I thought OpenAI’s name scheme was confusing." doesn't make sense and it's a reply to that post.

LLM's really destroyed the average person's ability to read and comprehend text.

▲mtlmtlmtlmtl a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To be fair, I knew all of those words already, and it never even occured to me that these names are supposed to be compared to eachother to indicate size or something. So, at least to me, it's not that it confuses me, it just imparted no information, because a collection of astronomical names and terms doesn't automatically indicate an ordering to me, it just indicates that nerds like naming their stuff after scientific terms and concepts, sci-fi stuff, etc.

I mean, this is what numbers are for. And not only do numbers indicate ordering(without having to do a mapping through severely atrophied school science class knowledge from decades ago), they can also convey meaningful size information using the wonderful technology of units of measurement.

▲sirk390 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OpenAI model names used to be confusing. He’s not talking about Luna, Terra, sol, Astra. They improved it a lot .

▲wellnowudontsay a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I refuse to walk among you rabble. You rabid mouth-breathers. I refuse I tell you.

The only models worth _my_ time are Σεληνη, Γη, Ἡλιος and Αστρα.

I don’t know what to tell you illiterate heretics other than you should know you are bad people. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

The truly αμεταπειστοι among us, the people _I_ hang out with, know these things by their proper name. Which is to say, naturally, 𒌗 and 𒆠 or, if you were even somewhat educated: 𓇹, 𓇾 and 𓇳 (praise be to Ra, the Great Unborn).

It saddens me to see HN has fallen to this level.

▲throwaway173738 a day ago | parent [-]

Can you guys stop taking the road signs off of your buildings when you paint please? It’s already hard enough to drive there.

▲drilbo a day ago | parent | prev [-]

i dont know where you are but from here earth looks way bigger than those sky circles

▲hoppp a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I have no idea what's going on with Gemini naming. Maybe it's an inside joke or something.

▲jonplackett 14 hours ago | parent [-]

The simplest explanation is that Gemini is doing the naming