Remix.run Logo
▲ TaLiTr a day ago

If your system keeps people alive by relying on 100% Microsoft uptime, maybe they deserve some blame?

▲joseda-hg a day ago | parent | next [-]

They do government and medical infra, those systems should be resilient but...

▲LoganDark a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Absolutely.

▲jjice a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like to dogpile on M$ as much as the next guy, but this feels like a heavy strawman.

> I dislike Microsoft as much as the next guy, but many businesses impacted by these outages are completely innocent and don't deserve these consequences.

At no point is "keeping people alive" mentioned. Businesses use email for everything. Businesses usually don't care about where their email server is hosted. They just want to send emails. They shouldn't have to care either. I don't put blame on a business that happened to choose Outlook, one of the largest email providers, to host their email.

▲boomlinde a day ago | parent [-]

> Businesses usually don't care about where their email server is hosted.

Deeply irresponsible.

> They shouldn't have to care either.

According to what realistic principle?

▲Detrytus a day ago | parent | prev [-]

To be honest, Microsoft has much better chance of actually achieving that (almost) 100% uptime than your company's own IT department self-hosting things.

▲boomlinde 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If the self-hosted email infrastructure goes down, roughly one company is deeply affected. When Microsoft's server goes, entire industries and governments will simultaneously be unable to conduct business as usual.

From the individual's perspective Microsoft might seem like the better choice if they can achieve higher availability, but the societal cost is so much greater when the one basket you've put all your eggs in breaks, even if everyone holding their own egg on average results in more broken eggs per year.

▲6031769 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Github would like a word.