It's starting to feel like OpenAI is in 3rd place now. Really eager to see how / if they can claw their way back up.

All the labs are holding back releases now, not necessarily to play games, but to make sure alignment is right. These models are teetering on the edge of "One person can seriously damage digital infrastructure" and an event like "Teenage kid uses Claude to bring Wells Fargo to it's knees for 6 hours" would be absolutely catastrophic for the whole industry.

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IMTDb a day ago | parent [-]

> Teenage kid uses Claude to bring Wells Fargo to it's knees for 6 hours" would be absolutely catastrophic for the whole industry.

It would (rightfully) be catastrophic for wells fargo. And great for the industry. If your security model relies on children not having access to things state actors can leverage, your in for a rude awakening.

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WarmWash a day ago | parent | next [-]

Right now it's looking like the security model for everyone is "Does or doesn't have access to SOTA LLMs"

Hence why they are gating model releases. Even Chinese models are doing this as Kimi K3 shipped with a lobotomized cyber sec ability. The major labs all have invite only cyber models too.

	▲	IMTDb a day ago \| parent [-]
		> Does or doesn't have access to SOTA LLMs “Security by availability” doesn’t seem really different to me from “security by obscurity” which has already been proven to be complete bullshit.

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deaux a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Then you are in for one too because your personal security relies on that, guaranteed. So does everyone's.

	▲	IMTDb a day ago \| parent [-]
		And the sooner that goes away, the happer I am. My confiendence in the orange dude, Winnie the pooh and their friends is honestly close to 0.

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vander_elst a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wait 1 week top, they'll release something soon for sure

	▲	aizk a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Oh I have no doubt they're working hard. It's just google is going to strangle them on the integration layer if they're not careful.
	▲	jauntywundrkind a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		And hopefully this time for them they don't have to release a new rev the week after. I wonder now that Terra-6 is out how it would compare to Sol-6. (Which was replaced a week latter by sol-6.1 after chat got dropped opus 5.5 to incredible fanfare then sonnet 5.5 that radically upped the medium model ability).

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matt4711 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would expect a new release from them soon to climb back up.

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objektif a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Heavy user of all models here and Astra is million miles ahead of everything.

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qnleigh a day ago | parent | prev [-]

They have an internal model that made serious progress on four of the seven Millennium Problems in mathematics, fully solving one of them. They'll be alright.