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▲ sonicrocketman 2 days ago

Downdetector says LOTS of stuff is down. https://downdetector.com

▲Icathian 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Downdetector's methodology is pretty garbage. I'm always surprised to see techies referencing them.

▲sonicrocketman 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's something to reference. My view is that it's better than "doesn't load for me".

▲inChargeOfIT 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How is it garbage? It's crowdsourced monitoring so sure, there will be false positives (especially when aws/cloudflare/azure/bgp services have a bad day), but it's one of the best indicators to quickly know if _something_ is going on.

▲cush 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah, but the methodology means that normies are going to inaccurately blame AWS and Google (both are down right now according to downdetector)

▲OGWhales 2 days ago | parent [-]

At least it reports the numbers they are getting, you can see that outlook has 130k reports while AWS only has 1.3k.

▲marifjeren 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What's your preferred alternative?

▲tristor 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Full Disclosure, this is a Cisco product and I work there.

ThousandEyes Internet Insights offers a public outage map at https://www.thousandeyes.com/outages/ that is MASSIVELY more accurate (and faster to detect) than Down Detector because its based on actual telemetry and not on crowdsourcing.

▲MadrasTh0rn 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Thank you for the recommendation!

They indicate sharepoint is getting blown out... again.

▲janlukacs 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

still down :)

▲VCFundedGenYer 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Honestly I trust downdetector more than that. Crowdsourcing always wins.

▲throooooo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Downdetector said basically everything was down today (including Google, AWS, etc.) but they aren't affected. This makes me NOT trust downdetector.

▲tristor 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

That's definitely your prerogative. Internet Insights uses various techniques to analyze billions of metrics gathered daily from hundreds of thousands of vantage points around the Internet to detect outages in minutes, while providing (in the paid product) corroborating evidence based on that collected telemetry to support its conclusions. Crowdsourcing is subject to the vagaries of crowds.

▲justusthane 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is ironic that this outage map _also_ is not loading for me right now

▲tristor 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, just to confirm, it seems that our platform is getting hammered at the moment and it's causing the page to take a long time to load or intermittently load. We are looking into it.

▲tristor 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

https://status.thousandeyes.com/incidents/3tnqsbbgvw4x

▲Stiereng 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

How ironic

▲tristor 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It is back up now.

There will be a more detailed message when we finish the SII on our status page at the link I previously provided, but the short version is we took way more traffic than normal to our platform and the related workers were running out of memory.

▲Stiereng 2 days ago | parent [-]

[dead]

▲xtiansimon 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

LOL. Share defaults to X.com

▲tristor 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The public outage map is primarily a marketing page, because customers receive deeper insights in-product. Given that most people discuss outages live/up-to-the-minute on Twitter, that is why its where we default to sharing.

▲stronglikedan 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

seems smart to link to the most popular platform by default. there's other share links at the bottom for the less popular ones

▲rico735 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's not that popular, is it? It's tiny compared to, like, Whatsapp.

▲stronglikedan 2 days ago | parent [-]

X to Whatsapp is apples to oranges

▲rico735 a day ago | parent [-]

How are you defining "most popular platform", then. X is pretty small compared with any of the big ones.

▲xtiansimon 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

HA! One size fits all. If that's the community this website is targeted towards, then have at it. Elsewhere in the world of sharing, users get to choose the platform where they're at.

▲ishtanbul 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

it seems to be down... lol

▲andrewinardeer 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ping?

▲dymk 2 days ago | parent [-]

Apparently Outlook, Gmail, etc are all working on the server at 192.168.1.1 then - ping says it's responding just fine

▲Icathian 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The snarky but honest response is HackerNews/Reddit. But if you're trying for something that actually checks the sites you point it at instead of relying on users reporting "issues", a buddy of mine runs https://onlineornot.com/ and it seems generally more reliable.

▲ceejayoz 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Back in the golden days you could just go to search.twitter.com, search "AWS", and sort by recent.

▲pacoWebConsult 2 days ago | parent [-]

Still can. AWS Status pages are still terrible. See HN for the outage a year ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45640838

▲ceejayoz 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Still can.

No. It requires an account now, and they did away with the recent posts firehose.

▲krazydad 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

"Start Free Trial" -- uh, no thanks. You seem skeptical of crowd sourcing. Enjoy your Encyclopedia Brittanica.

▲spelunker 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

My extensive DDoS bot network... er I mean my distributed website validation platform!

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▲akersten 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It seems like one of the best methodologies there is? Real people reporting real outages of a service they use?

I often know about outages dozens of minutes in advance of it being posted on official channels (or in the case of AWS, three days later...).

So what if the resolution is low because people can't log in to Fortnite and an Azure outage gets shown as an Epic Games outage. Doesn't matter. The live feed is incredibly reassuring from a "down for anyone else this instant, before official status page has a chance to see it?" Saves me so much time knowing whether it's a me-or-them issue.

▲rdiddly 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At the other extreme is Microsoft's own dashboard (https://azure.status.microsoft/en-us/status) whose methodology is so "rigorous" that it probably won't show anything about today's outage until next week, if at all!

▲NetMageSCW 2 days ago | parent [-]

Since this isn’t an Azure outage why would that page show anything ever?

▲rdiddly 2 days ago | parent [-]

At the time I believed it was an Azure outage. And Office 365 relies on Azure stuff and would probably go down with it.

▲denysvitali 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Still more reliable than most of the status pages that even lie after the outages

▲pigggg 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As someone who ends up being unofficial downdetector-primary at a company, dealing with this shit and the fact that people cannot comprehend its mis-attribtion wastes so much of my time.

▲greenchair 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

not really, soon as i had a problem with outlook i went there and already saw user reports and a massive spike confirming it wasn't anything on my end.

▲dudus 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From what I've seen it seems people complaining they can't get emails from MS so that's why gmail is showing as down.

And with Google is people complaining Chrome doesn't load their "pages". I bet they mean outlook.

▲busymom0 2 days ago | parent [-]

My housemate texted me saying our internet is so slow because outlook wasn't loading. So I think lots of people associate email not working with entire internet not working..

▲MiguelPablo 2 days ago | parent [-]

With how many people are unable to associate a "broken" monitor with an unplugged HDMI/DisplayPort or power cable, it doesn't surprise me that most people would not make a disctinction between the "internet" and "Outlook".

▲paxy 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This happens every time there's an outage. People see their email not working and go there and mark everything as down regardless of whether it is affected or not. There's nothing wrong with Gmail or AWS or Cloudflare or Facebook.

▲patrickmay 2 days ago | parent [-]

"There's nothing wrong with . . . Facebook."

That's a bold claim to make on HN.

▲SomeonesAccount 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Damn. That is crazy. The curve kinda looks like the curve that happens every november to the Google searches of "all I want for christmas is you"