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▲ badrequest 9 hours ago

I'm a normal person with a beating heart and conscience, so I don't give a damn about how much shareholder value someone has ever created, and I never will.

▲djaro 9 hours ago | parent [-]

So you are not planning to ever retire? You never buy anything? You dont have a job?

Unless you are a subsistence farmer, everything you have in your life is thanks to the economy and "shareholder value".

Its strange to me how many people will say stuff like "who cares about the economy, I care about people" when the economy is the thing that ensures people have food and shelter and dont starve.

▲lentil_soup 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>> everything you have in your life is thanks to the economy and "shareholder value".

No it's not, shareholder value as understood as owning a piece of a publicly traded company doesn't produce anything on its own and it's definitely independent of the economy of a society. Could even be argued that the wealth stuck in the shareholder value is reducing the investments that could be being made in the interest of the rest of the economy.

I can easily make something and sell it to you without creating shareholder value.

▲NetMageSCW 8 hours ago | parent [-]

So why haven’t you created a private company that redefines a market segment if it is so easy?

▲lentil_soup 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Huh? Who's talking about that? OP argued that everything we have is because of shareholder value. That is false.

No one is talking about anything being easy or redefining a market (which, since you bring it up, has been done infinite times by private and state funded companies as well)

▲breuleux 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's just that "Jensen has created more shareholder value than nearly any human on earth", to many people, sounds a bit like "McDonalds has created more calories than nearly every company on earth". Sure, you need calories to survive, but that's not exactly the issue people are having here.